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Nielsen: Joe Biden's ABC town hall averaged 13.9M viewers, while Trump's NBC town hall averaged 10.6M; MSNBC and CNBC simulcasts of Trump brought total to 13M — New York (CNN Business)Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing …
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Dan Froomkin / Press Watch: Dueling town halls finally lead some reporters to address the extreme disequilibrium between Trump and Biden
Jonathan Karl / @jonkarl: SIREN! The Biden Town Hall on ABC drew 2.3 million more viewers than the Trump town hall on NBC. There is nothing @realDonaldTrump cares about more than ratings. https://variety.com/...
Joe DePaolo / Mediaite: CNN's Brian Stelter Rubs Salt in Trump's Wound: ‘Everybody in the TV Business’ Thought His Town Hall Would Beat Biden's
Susan B. Glasser / New Yorker: The Presidential Town Halls Were Mister Rogers Versus Nasty Uncle Trump
Margeaux Sippell / The Wrap: ‘The View’ Criticizes ‘Human Bobblehead’ Behind Trump at NBC Town Hall: ‘So Distracting’ (Video)
Dallas Morning News: At dueling town halls, Trump lauds QAnon for opposing pedophilia and Biden stokes speculation on court packing
The Philadelphia Inquirer: Dueling town halls with Biden in Philly and Trump in Miami make for a 2020 split-screen moment
USA Today: COVID-19, QAnon and court packing: Here are the top moments from the Biden, Trump town halls
David Smith / The Guardian: Trump condemned for QAnon dodge as Biden town hall wins TV ratings battle
Rick Porter / Hollywood Reporter: TV Ratings: Biden's ABC Town Hall Beats Trump on NBC in Early Numbers
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: This won't slow the strange phenomenon of Twitter users who are hostile to Trump but totally convinced that he's a ratings juggernaut. https://twitter.com/...
Aaron Rupar / @atrupar: Trump will take this harder than any poll showing him losing to Biden https://twitter.com/...
Kathryn Krawczyk / The Week: Ratings-obsessed Trump won't be happy with the early town hall numbers
Christopher Rosen / Vanity Fair: It's Official: Biden Beats Trump in Town Hall Television Ratings
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: This is a result virtually no one in the TV biz expected. Staffers at ABC News privately admitted to their surprise when the Nielsen #'s came in. https://www.cnn.com/...
Will Thorne / Mercury News: TV Ratings: Joe Biden leads town hall duel with Donald Trump in early numbers
Matt Webb Mitovich / TVLine: TV Ratings: Biden Town Hall Outdraws Trump's, Draws Younger Crowd
Ashley Anglisano / Crash Course: Biden, Trump host rival town halls after canceled online presidential debate
Liz Kocan / Decider: Trump Vs. Biden: Who Won The Town Hall Throwdown?
Julin Castro / @juliancastro: Joe Biden beat Donald Trump at his own ratings game. Americans are tired of Trump. They want the change Biden offers. https://twitter.com/...
Abigail Weinberg / Mother Jones: Early Results Are In: More People Watched Biden's Town Hall Than Trump's
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Despite fears that the NBC town hall would amount to free promotion for Trump, Savannah Guthrie grilled him and repeatedly challenged his evasions — The network was criticized for accommodating Trump after he rejected a debate. But then the ‘Today’ host started asking him questions.
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Jon Allsop / Columbia Journalism Review: Guthrie grills Trump, but NBC still has to answer for itself
Annie Karni / New York Times: Savannah Guthrie gets answers from Trump by setting a fast pace and following up.
Brian Steinberg / Variety: How Savannah Guthrie Helped Salvage NBC's Risky Bet on Town Hall
David Frum / The Atlantic: The Final Season of the Trump Show
Peter Hamby / @peterhamby: Two days of How Dare You, NBC! takes conclude with an avalanche of applause tweets for @SavannahGuthrie. News cycles can be really dumb these days.
Bess Levin / Vanity Fair: Donald Trump Insists It's Entirely Possible Democrats Are Running a Satanic Pedophile Cult
@cjr: Savannah Guthrie did do well, pushing back effectively on many of Trump's lies. That, though, should really be a minimum standard for a Trump interview. https://www.cjr.org/...
Brian Steinberg / @bristei: I don't know what NBC pays @SavannahGuthrie but execs should give her a whopping bonus this year bc she might just get them out of one of the company's biggest messes in years
Susan Crabtree / Real Clear Politics: At Townhall, Biden Channels Mr. Rogers
Simon Owens / @simonowens: Alternate theory: the two days of harsh criticism forced NBC to go tough on Trump https://twitter.com/...
@nytimes: Savannah Guthrie peppered President Trump during Thursday's town hall with a series of quick-paced, conversational questions that managed to put him on the spot and reveal his evasions in a way that few others have managed. https://www.nytimes.com/...
@foxnews: Critics pan NBC town hall, Savannah Guthrie for ‘debating’ Trump, ABC for giving ‘softballs’ to Biden https://www.foxnews.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Howard / @digiphile: I remain disappointed in the decision by @NBCNews leadership — but @SavannahGuthrie was extraordinary last night: prepared, patient, & unflappable. https://www.boston.com/... One of the best public interviews of Trump since 2015 gave network executives cover for an unethical choice.
Glamour / @glamourmag: “Finally, FINALLY, an interviewer who asked Trump the tough questions and followed up.” 👏 https://glmr.co/mqIZmCn
Patrick Dillon / @mpdillon: @PeterHamby @SavannahGuthrie I mean, I do think believing a network giving a head-to-head townhall slot to an incumbent President who's blowing off debates is not a great precedent, and that she did a pretty solid job given the circumstances, are not wholly inconsistent or opposite beliefs
Rob Quinn / Newser: Guthrie Gave Trump ‘One of His Toughest Grillings’
Willie Geist / @williegeist: .@SavannahGuthrie did an excellent job of drawing answers out of @POTUS tonight, as we all knew she would. Proud of my friend. https://twitter.com/...
Robert Bianco / @biancorobert: I'm glad Guthrie did well - but this headline is completely backwards. If NBC's broadcast was that newsworthy, it makes the foolish decision to schedule it opposite ABC's town hall and force viewers to choose all the more heinous. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Charlie Sykes / Morning Shots: Mr. Rogers vs. Your Crazy Uncle
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: “Nor does Guthrie's generally good performance let NBC off the hook for its original, craven decision to counter-program Biden.” https://www.cjr.org/...
C Bryan Jones / @cbryanjones: Yes! @SavannahGuthrie was AMAZING! @SusanPage should take notes. This is how a real journalist asks questions of someone who evades and distracts with moronic nonsense. https://twitter.com/...
Morgan Chesky / @breakingchesky: Future journalists, or any for that matter should study @SavannahGuthrie's handling of tonight's town hall w/@POTUS. She set the pace, kept following up, and then some. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Andrew Beaujon / Washingtonian: A Reminder: Savannah Guthrie Is an Attorney
Claire Shaffer / Rolling Stone: Jimmy Kimmel Slams Trump's Dueling Town Hall on Debate Night
Walter Shapiro / New Republic: Diary of a Channel Surfer
Liz Kocan / Decider: Jimmy Kimmel Explains Why Trump And Biden's Town Halls Were Head-To-Head: “NBC Sucks”
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Over 100 actors, writers, and producers sign a letter to NBCUniversal and Comcast execs protesting the airing of a Trump town hall opposite a Biden event — “You are enabling the president's bad behavior while undercutting the Presidential Debate Commission and doing a disservice to the American public …
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Conan O'Brien / @conanobrien: I can't remember the last time I was this shocked by an NBC programming decision.
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: This is how Trump is previewing his town hall: “You know, I'm being set up tonight. I'm doing this town hall with Concast - C O N, right - CON - cuz it's a CON JOB. Concast. C O N. Not C O M. CONcast. So I'm doing it, and it's NBC, the worst...” https://twitter.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: NBC News head Cesar Conde says, “We share in the frustration that our event will initially air alongside the first half of ABC's broadcast with Vice President Biden. Our decision is motivated only by fairness, not business considerations.” https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
Merrill Brown / @merrillbro: Management at @NBCNews needs to explain ASAP how agreeing at last minute to add a town hall with President Trump opposite an @abcnews Joe Biden Town Hall is in the public interest. Even doing it at 10 ET just after Biden would have been a better decision. https://twitter.com/...
Shakina / @shakeenz: Shame on @NBC. Y'all sign my checks as of late but I'm disgusted by my home network giving Trump a platform for fear mongering, bigotry & disinformation. Don't praise yourselves for putting a trans woman on primetime then give a platform to someone who wants to abolish my rights.
Elahe Izadi / Washington Post: Biden's town hall drew almost a million more viewers than Trump's, according to early TV ratings
Felicia Sonmez / @feliciasonmez: Trump tells the crowd he's doing his NBC town hall tonight. He says NBC is “the worst” and repeatedly insults them and host Savannah Guthrie. “I figured, what the hell, we get a free hour on television,” Trump says.
Jeff Greenfield / @greenfield64: The decision by NBC News to run a Trump town hall directly opposite ABC's Biden town hall is indefensible.
Joe Flint / Wall Street Journal: NBC Actors, Producers Protest Decision to Host Trump Town Hall at Same Time as Biden Event
Marc Caputo / Politico: Trump town hall sparks behind-the-scenes fury at NBC
@yashar: I've heard from over a dozen NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC sources (talent and staff) and the frustration with and anger toward their employer for scheduling a town hall against Biden is palpable.
Vivian Schiller / @vivian: The point of a news organization is to serve the public. This is the opposite. @NBCNews could literally run this any other day, or any other time. Shameful. (Disclosure: I am a former NBC News exec) https://twitter.com/...
Jennifer Maas / The Wrap: Ratings: ‘Connecting...’ Enjoys Trump Town Hall Lead-in, and Then Falls Off a Cliff
Alex Shephard / New Republic: NBC Did Joe Biden a Big Favor
Stephen Battaglio / Los Angeles Times: Biden's audience on ABC tops NBC's Trump event in the duel of town halls
Sue Halpern / @suehalpernvt: The cynicism of NBC execs, who gave us The Apprentice and thus this President, is stunning and shameful. ABC should call their bluff and move Biden so he talks after Trump. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Mark Lukasiewicz / @deanluk: This is a bad result for American voters, who should not be forced to choose which to watch. So much is still going wrong with how TV journalism copes, or still fails to cope, with @realDonaldTrump. https://twitter.com/...
Marc Caputo / @marcacaputo: Maddow enjoyed Savannah Guthrie's questioning of Trump but suggested she had some reservations about how the town hall came to be, potentially reflecting some of the internal NBCUniversal discontent over it background: https://www.politico.com/... video of Maddow starting her show👇 https://twitter.com/...
Adam Nagourney / @adamnagourney: Fair point; not sure why Trump/NBC couldn't have gone before or after, or on another day. This should be about voters, give them a chance to see candidates. Instead, feels like this is going to deteriorate into chest-thumping over who gets biggest ratings. https://twitter.com/...
Jeet Heer / The Nation: Democrats Should Welcome More Trump Town Halls
Nik DeCosta-Klipa / Boston.com: Chuck Todd says he wasn't involved with NBC's controversial Donald Trump town hall
John Hodgman / @hodgman: Someone in my feed asked if anyone getting paid by NBC was standing up to this. @shakeenz was incredibly brave to leap out among the first. CONNECTING show creators @martingero and Brendan Gall backed up their cast and put their reps and brand new show on the line too. https://twitter.com/...
Margaret Sullivan / @sulliview: In a Sept 23 note to @NBCNews staff, the top honcho urged news group to pause to think about ‘mission’ and being ‘best in class’. Weeks later, he signed off on this ratings-driven spectacle. My column https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Marc Caputo / @marcacaputo: What Ive gathered: ✅NBC News Noah Oppenheim made the decision for the Trump town hall ✅He clashed w/MSNBC's Phil Griffin over it ✅The 2 also disagree over their networks' directions ✅Chuck Todd had 0 to do w/town hall (colleague says he's appalled) https://www.politico.com/...
Connie Schultz / @connieschultz: “As @vivian Vivian Schiller, a former NBC, Twitter and NPR executive, put it: ‘The point of a news organization is to serve the public. This is the opposite.’” https://twitter.com/...
Heidi N. Moore / @moorehn: my entire timeline is trump. literally no biden at all. members of the media included. y'all are really going to give him those metrics, huh? that's how we got here.
Bradley Whitford / @bradleywhitford: Bullshit. “Fairness” would mean doing it the following night, not opposite each other. It also would have given you better ratings. The stupidity of your decision would be hilarious if it didn't exacerbate the divisions in our already traumatized country. Shame on you. https://twitter.com/...
Eric Idle / @ericidle: This is bollocks. You're losing a lot of friends. Think again. https://twitter.com/...
Billy Eichner / @billyeichner: I love @ConanOBrien. https://twitter.com/...
Warren Leight / @warrenleighttv: How can you “share in the frustration” when you are the ones who scheduled it? https://twitter.com/...
Joshua Benton / @jbenton: Your penance is the release of all Apprentice tapes by Monday morning, NBC https://www.wsj.com/...
Jennifer Szalai / @jenszalai: According to this, the person at NBC who wanted to move ahead “unilaterally” with the Trump town hall was Noah Oppenheim, who featured prominently (and not in a flattering light) in @RonanFarrow's “Catch and Kill” https://www.politico.com/...
Kyle Pope / @kylepope: I'm reminded of Chris Wallace bemoaning the fact that Trump's shouting meant the American people didn't get the benefit of hearing from both candidates. @NBCNews apparently has no such view. This is a craven ratings stunt, caving to the Trumpian impulses the network helped hone.
Abby D. Phillip / @abbydphillip: Yeah... so this is going well. https://twitter.com/...
@jackischechner: How humiliating for you, @NBCNews. You offer him an hour of free exposure, and he sh*ts all over you and your anchors. https://twitter.com/...
Eric Balfour / @ericbalfour: This is such a lame move on the part of @NBCNews. They should have held it on another night! https://twitter.com/...
David M. Perry / @lollardfish: Protest is good. But also: strike. https://twitter.com/...
Markos Moulitsas / @markos: Great job @nbc @NBCNews! You managed to piss everyone off, and for what? https://twitter.com/...
@wajahatali: Congrats NBC. You brought this on yourselves. Was it worth it? Just for ratings. Pathetic. https://twitter.com/...
Yvette Nicole Brown / @ynb: Alexa, play a reading of the poem “The Snake”. https://twitter.com/...
Keith Olbermann / @keitholbermann: Pro tip: cancel it https://twitter.com/...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: “MSNBC head Phil Griffin strongly disagreed with NBC News President Noah Oppenheim's decision to unilaterally move forward with the town hall during that time slot,” @MarcACaputo reports, citing “three high-ranking sources” https://www.politico.com/...
Jon Allsop / @jon_allsop: @BGrueskin @benyt They probably won't, though Trump might make it a nightmare for himself...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: @BGrueskin @benyt Holt asked lots of his own Q's last week, so Guthrie will too
Bill Grueskin / @bgrueskin: @brianstelter @benyt Right. But the host still has to feed off the voters' questions
Bill Grueskin / @bgrueskin: @benyt It's a town hall, so NBC's options are more limited than a straight interview or debate.
Oliver Willis / @owillis: @benyt youve been at this too long for this naive a take
@corb_the_lesser: @benyt If Trump is tossed a few relevant questions, he'll do his own nightmare making.
Josh Sternberg / @joshsternberg: @BGrueskin @brianstelter @benyt I will be interested to see if NBC puts its ad sales execs in the front row like previous presidential town halls, like 2016's Commander-in-Chief forum on the Intrepid.
Steve Inskeep / @nprinskeep: Okay that's a good line. https://twitter.com/...
Daniel W. Drezner / @dandrezner: Tweet of the day. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Rather / @danrather: This shade is as warranted as an umbrella on a hot summer day at the beach. And @ConanOBrien, I'm here for it. https://twitter.com/...
Shawn Hatosy / @shawnhatosy: Dude, I remember. That decision caused the first cancellation of Southland. https://twitter.com/...
Dave Itzkoff / @ditzkoff: the important thing is that, by offering Trump a competing town hall, NBC was able to maintain its dignity and avoid the wrath of the president https://twitter.com/...
Rob Schmitt / @schmittnyc: To shocked NBC staff, your company, like every other corporation, is just pretending to be woke and liberal. Trump town hall will make millions and they need money to pay you. Welcome to capitalism. https://twitter.com/...
Frances Fisher / @frances_fisher: @jjabrams @Ava @marhargitay Among 100 Top Hollywood Players: “We are simply asking that #NBC air the President's town hall either before or after Vice President #Biden's so that American voters can have the opportunity to watch both.” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ ...
Byron York / @byronyork: NBC actors, producers protest network's decision to air Trump town hall tonight at same time as Biden's on ABC. They want you to know that, ‘This is not a partisan issue. This is about the political health of our democracy.’ OK. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Steve Herman / @w7voa: “So I'm being set up tonight” with “Concast” and “NBC, the worst,” says @POTUS of this evening's televised town hall event. “We get a free hour on television.”
@blackamazon: ...... god the social and comms consultant space is bad and bland and boring right now https://twitter.com/...
Dr. David A. Lustig / @drdave1999: I call it ‘Corporate Cowardice.’ Other users on social media were less kind. NBC deserves to be blasted for giving the Sociopath-in-Chief 90-min. of free airtime after he withdrew from his debate with Biden, as well as for scheduling it opposite Biden. https://www.latimes.com/...
Brent Furdyk / Top Celebrity News, Hollywood Headlines: Celebrities Share Reactions To Vastly Different Biden And Trump Town Halls
Vivian Schiller / @vivian: @benyt They made their own bed.
Josh Sternberg / @joshsternberg: Would appreciate a look into how much money the networks are making from town halls. We blew past the “informing the public” argument. Media buyers, my DMs are open to hear how much your clients are spending to be a part of this.
Elahe Izadi / @elaheizadi: .@Sulliview has some words: “In fact, NBC News is doing what so much of mainstream media has done time and again: allowed Trump to steal the spotlight and command attention on his terms.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Don Cheadle / @doncheadle: yep. fairness. not business. um hm. they're in the fairness business. like all networks are. um hm ... https://twitter.com/...
Brit Hume / @brithume: They are like most college faculties: liberal, biased and trying to run the institutions. https://www.wsj.com/...
James Poniewozik / @poniewozik: As TV professionals know, NBC executives have no control over their scheduling decisions, which are made by drawing a time slot on a slip of paper using an arcade claw machine, an admittedly frustrating but nonetheless binding process. https://twitter.com/...
Steve Marmel / @marmel: This took courage that Savannah Guthrie does not have. https://twitter.com/...
LK Lawson / @herzogfan: @MSNBC Goodbye NBC. You reward Trump's bad behavior by giving him his own special opposite Biden ? Haven't you guys done enough in promoting this conman and pathological liar ? Savannah Guthrie ? What, Toadstool Todd wasn't free ? The NBC-Trump legacy: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Barbara Malmet / @b52malmet: Look. The historical predicate of Trump shaking down NBC for what he wants. https://twitter.com/...
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[Thread] Twitter updates Hacked Materials Policy, says it won't remove content unless shared by hackers themselves and will label tweets instead of block links — Over the last 24 hours, we've received significant feedback (from critical to supportive) about how we enforced our Hacked Materials Policy yesterday. After reflecting on this feedback, we have decided to make changes to the policy and how we enforce it.
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Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: We believe that labeling Tweets and empowering people to assess content for themselves better serves the public interest and public conversation. The Hacked Material Policy is being updated to reflect these new enforcement capabilities.
@jack: Straight blocking of URLs was wrong, and we updated our policy and enforcement to fix. Our goal is to attempt to add context, and now we have capabilities to do that. https://twitter.com/...
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: So, what's changing? 1. We will no longer remove hacked content unless it is directly shared by hackers or those acting in concert with them 2. We will label Tweets to provide context instead of blocking links from being shared on Twitter
Arjun Kharpal / CNBC: Twitter changes hacked material policy after backlash over blocking NYPost story about Biden's son
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: I'm grateful for everyone who has provided feedback and insights over the past day. Content moderation is incredibly difficult, especially in the critical context of an election. We are trying to act responsibly & quickly to prevent harms, but we're still learning along the way.
Elizabeth Dwoskin / Washington Post: Twitter changes policy that blocked a New York Post story about Biden's son
Sean Burch / The Wrap: Twitter Reverses ‘Wrong’ Policy on Hacked Materials After NY Post Story Was Blocked
Brandon / @bborrman: Yesterday was the highest profile application of the Hacked Materials Policy to date. We want to clarify — the policy isn't meant to chill journalistic efforts or whistleblowers. More to come. https://twitter.com/...
Andy Greenberg / Wired: Twitter's ‘Hacked Materials’ Rule Tries to Thread an Impossible Needle
Rat King / @mikeisaac: Twitter and Facebook spent 24 hours defending decisions to throttle or block links to the NYPost story. Amazingly, tonight Twitter changed its stance because of the chilling effect its “hacked materials” policy could have on whistleblowers w @kateconger https://www.nytimes.com/...
Lucas Nolan / Breitbart: ‘Fact Check’ Arbiter Poynter Institute Blasts Facebook, Twitter for Censoring Biden Bombshells
Glenn Greenwald / The Intercept: Facebook and Twitter Cross a Line Far More Dangerous Than What They Censor
Brandon / @bborrman: @ScottNover @TwitterComms @nypost No change as the materials in the article still violate our rules on sharing personal private information.
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: Why the changes? We want to address the concerns that there could be many unintended consequences to journalists, whistleblowers and others in ways that are contrary to Twitter's purpose of serving the public conversation.
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: All the other Twitter Rules will still apply to the posting of or linking to hacked materials, such as our rules against posting private information, synthetic and manipulated media, and non-consensual nudity.
Jessica Bursztynsky / CNBC: Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey says blocking New York Post story was ‘wrong’
Mike Masnick / Techdirt: Twitter Fixes Its Bad Policy On Blocking ‘Hacked’ Documents
Alex Stamos / @alexstamos: These companies have serious problems with non-consensual imagery for both celebrities and normies, and strong enforcement of those rules (and anything that could lead to physical or electronic brigading) should still be free of political considerations. https://twitter.com/...
Natasha Lomas / TechCrunch: Twitter changes its hacked materials policy in wake of New York Post controversy
Rat King / @mikeisaac: But! Twitter will still continue to block links to the NYPost story under a *separate* policy, because the story contains links to email addresses and personal information, which are not allowed on the site. tune in tomorrow for our next installment https://www.nytimes.com/...
Todd Spangler / Variety: Twitter CEO Admits Blocking NY Post Stories Was Wrong, Changes Hacked-Content Policy
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: We will continue to keep you all updated on our progress and more details as we update our policy pages to reflect these changes in the coming days.
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: We've recently added new product capabilities, such as labels to provide people with additional context. We are no longer limited to Tweet removal as an enforcement action.
Staci D Kramer / @sdkstl: “We are trying to act responsibly & quickly to prevent harms, but we're still learning along the way.” - Twitter moves quickly to adjust how it enforces the controversial policy that blocked NYP article from being posted or shared. https://twitter.com/...
Vijaya Gadde / @vijaya: We put the Hacked Materials Policy in place back in 2018 to discourage and mitigate harms associated with hacks and unauthorized exposure of private information. We tried to find the right balance between people's privacy and the right of free expression, but we can do better.
Justin Hendrix / @justinhendrix: One of the reasons people are freaking out about the removal/limiting of the NY Post story is they are simply not habituated to the platforms caring. @ChristopherJM: Facebook Gave A Platform To The Shady Ukrainians Pushing The New York Post Biden Story https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...
Jessica Verrilli / @jess: This is such a hard job but I have total faith @vijaya and the Twitter team are acting in a principled manner, listening to the feedback, and transparently evolving. https://twitter.com/...
Steven Overly / @stevenoverly: Twitter makes changes to its policies for handling hacked materials following the New York Post controversy. https://twitter.com/...
@reciaimthenet: They change their “hacked materials” policy but still don't define what “hacked materials” are and how it related to the @nypost story... https://twitter.com/...
@poynter: It seems like Facebook and Twitter have decided to assume the position they've been avoiding for so long. https://www.poynter.org/...
Josh Hawley / @hawleymo: I'm looking forward to asking you about this. Under oath. https://twitter.com/...
Asha Rangappa / @asharangappa_: Subject of NY Post story is now being investigated by the FBI a foreign intel operation and Twitter decides to facilitate our adversaries by allowing it to spread like wildfire. Remember, lies spread 6x faster than truth on social media...Russia counts on it 🇷🇺 https://twitter.com/...
Maarten Schenk / Lead Stories: Fact Check: Twitter Did NOT Shut Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News
Scott Nover / @scottnover: @bborrman @TwitterComms @nypost Okay, thanks. But the change indicates that, under the new policy, the @nypost article itself doesn't violate the hacked materials policy anymore? Is that correct?
David Carroll / @profcarroll: Everyone is making it up as they go along. The only question is do you want folks who are democratically elected/appointed doing it or do you want folks accountable only to shareholders doing it (and only barely because of special stock classes and packing the board and stuff)? https://twitter.com/...
Rasmus Kleis Nielsen / @rasmus_kleis: 100% this - “Without methodology or transparency, Facebook and Twitter become the ‘arbiters of the truth’” @ctardaguila says. “Naive are those who believe this isn't dangerous ... Transparency is essential [to] the cause of reducing mis and disinformation” https://www.poynter.org/...
Brandon / @bborrman: @ScottNover @TwitterComms @nypost New policy is not in place yet, but we'll share it when it is in the coming days. So as of now nothing changes.
Farhad Manjoo / @fmanjoo: we're changing the policy that led to this but it also violates another policy https://twitter.com/...
Liz Kelley / @lizkelley: moving forward, we'll label hacked materials rather than blocking links. here's the latest: https://twitter.com/...
Patrick Dillon / @mpdillon: These sites have have known for 4 years this kind of stuff was coming, we're less than 3 weeks out, and the answer is still “we're winging it, we'll make it up as we go along” https://www.nytimes.com/...
One Matt among many / @0xmatt: @alexstamos It does seem to me though, like the practical effect of this change is that hacktivists will have their content taken down, but anyone who can afford to launder their hacked data through the New York Post will get a pass.
Alex Stamos / @alexstamos: This seems like a reasonable change. It's appropriate for social media platforms to prevent themselves from being used as the initial distribution point for a hack-forge-leak, but not once the stories hit the press. Twitter and Facebook can't fix bad journalism. https://twitter.com/...
Scott Nover / @scottnover: @bborrman @TwitterComms Hey Brandon — How does this effect the @nypost article?
Brendan Morrow / The Week: Twitter announces ‘stunning policy reversal’ after New York Post article block
Eric Weinstein / @ericrweinstein: You have: a consistency problem a hypocrisy problem a political bias problem an arrogance problem an authoritarian problem an insularity problem and a censorship problem And all are *repeatedly* misportrayed as a single “clarity in communications” problem. #SlipTheDISC https://twitter.com/...
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@twittersafety:
[Thread] Twitter clarifies why it blocked the sharing of NY Post's Biden story, saying it contained private info and violated its Hacked Materials Policy
[Thread] Twitter clarifies why it blocked the sharing of NY Post's Biden story, saying it contained private info and violated its Hacked Materials Policy
Discussion:
Adweek, @jack, @twittersafety, @politifact, @noupside, @ridt, @jakesherman, Columbia Journalism Review, Gizmodo, New York Times, Politico, @tedcruz, Breitbart, Associated Press, @jonfavs, Duluth News Tribune, Real Clear Politics, @pt, @trumpwarroom, The Guardian, Washington Post, @christopherjm, @justinamash, @deanobeidallah, @jakesherman, @jakesherman, @svdate, networked, @sentomcotton, Platformer and @jamestodaromd, more at Techmeme »
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Scott Nover / Adweek: Twitter and Facebook's Editorial Decisions Clash With Questionable New York Post Reporting
@jack: Our communication around our actions on the @nypost article was not great. And blocking URL sharing via tweet or DM with zero context as to why we're blocking: unacceptable. https://twitter.com/...
@twittersafety: The policy, established in 2018, prohibits the use of our service to distribute content obtained without authorization. We don't want to incentivize hacking by allowing Twitter to be used as distribution for possibly illegally obtained materials. https://blog.twitter.com/...
Tom Kertscher / @politifact: A look behind the NY Post headline about Joe Biden and a Ukraine meeting
Renee DiResta / @noupside: This is related to today's Biden story: A few months ago the fact-respecting portion of the internet was outraged at social media companies allowing Plandemic to go wildly viral, despite stated policies against health misinfo. The video was taken down after millions of views...
Thomas Rid / @ridt: Relax. Twitter and Facebook are not the internet, and they're not the government. These are private companies. A little bit like a supermarket asking you to wear a mask. You can just stay out or leave if you don't like it.
Jake Sherman / @jakesherman: I tweeted a link to the NYP story right after it dropped yesterday morning. I immediately reached out to the Biden campaign to see if they had any answer. I wish i had given the story a closer read before tweeting it. @twitter suspended me https://twitter.com/...
Whitney Kimball / Gizmodo: ‘Censored’ New York Post Article Has Been Shared Only... 470,000 Times on Facebook
Jack Shafer / Politico: Facebook and Twitter Have Bitten Off Too Much
Ted Cruz / @tedcruz: My letter to @jack regarding @Twitter's censorship of the @nypost. https://twitter.com/...
Jon Favreau / @jonfavs: The New York Post lied because The New York Post is a run by right-wing liars and we should assume what they write is false until proven otherwise. https://twitter.com/...
Duluth News Tribune: Twitter briefly restricts Trump campaign account, Republicans decry company's actions
Parker / @pt: I have read the argument a lot in the last day that social media is the Public Square. No. The internet is the public square, and it is infinite. Twitter is an Arby's on the Square, and you're inside yelling about their lack of vegan options being literal fascism.
Trump War Room / @trumpwarroom: BREAKING: Twitter has locked the personal account of White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany for sharing news Democrats don't like. https://twitter.com/...
Martin Farrer / The Guardian: Twitter softens policy on hacking after row over blocked New York Post story
Elizabeth Dwoskin / Washington Post: Facebook and Twitter take unusual steps to limit spread of New York Post story
Christopher Miller / @christopherjm: New: Facebook reduced the distribution of the NY Post story with unverified claims about the Bidens. But for a year+ it's given a platform to Ukrainian operatives—including one the US sanctioned & deemed an “active Russian agent”—to spread Biden disinfo. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...
Justin Amash / @justinamash: The First Amendment prohibits government censorship and protects private censorship. In a free society, Twitter and Facebook are allowed to make horrible decisions with respect to content moderation, and you are allowed to tell them off and use another service.
@deanobeidallah: Here is the fact checking for the Hunter Biden email myth- the owner of a small computer store has no idea who gave him the mystery computer. Add to that he copied the hard drive and gave it to Rudy Giuliani. Hmmm, is giving a hard drive to Rudy standard? https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Jake Sherman / @jakesherman: @Twitter my goal was not to spread informatoin. my goal was to raise questions about the story — as i did in subsequent tweets — and see how the biden campaign was going to respond. They later did respond.
Jake Sherman / @jakesherman: @Twitter My account is clearly no longer suspended. I deleted the tweet.
S.V. Dte / @svdate: It seems like maybe the real story here is the role of Giuliani and Bannon in obtaining and disseminating Russian disinformation to swing the US election. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Jay Pinho / networked: But his emails — (Yup, like everyone else, I moved from TinyLetter to Substack.
Tom Cotton / @sentomcotton: There will be ... NO QUARTER for censorship by Big Tech Oligarchs. https://twitter.com/...
Casey Newton / Platformer: YouTube comes for Q — I. — On Wednesday Facebook and Twitter sniffed out what appeared …
Casey Newton / Platformer:
The Post hack-and-leak may remain in the right-wing conspiracy sphere if mainstream outlets treat it with the same severe skepticism Twitter and Facebook have
The Post hack-and-leak may remain in the right-wing conspiracy sphere if mainstream outlets treat it with the same severe skepticism Twitter and Facebook have
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Ken Dilanian / NBC News: Feds examining whether alleged Hunter Biden emails are linked to a foreign intel operation
CNN: US authorities investigating if recently published emails are tied to Russian disinformation effort targeting Biden
Kevin Drum / Mother Jones: Is Rudy Giuliani a Russian Pawn?
Justin Hendrix / Just Security: Facebook and Twitter's Handling of New York Post Hunter Biden Story Bodes Poorly for Post-Election Period
Edward Wong / @ewong: Many newsrooms are treating the “mystery laptop” differently than the 2016 Clinton & Dem email dumps. Reporters & editors realize they got played then — those leaks were part of a Russian operation. What's the real story now? And what's the role of Murdoch-owned NY Post & Fox? https://twitter.com/...
Jonathan Chait / @jonathanchait: I realize there is No Collusion but the Giuliani-Derkach relationship does seem a little bit... collusive? https://nymag.com/...
Jeff Asher / @crimealytics: This is smart and I wonder if the platforms are more than just suspecting a hack and leak. https://twitter.com/...
@cjr: New from @mathewi: Since Donald Trump became president, there's been a never-ending series of articles about how the media enabled his victory. A blizzard of news on Wednesday showed that some are failing to heed those warnings. https://www.cjr.org/...
Lisa Snowden / @lisamccray: All the good people in journalism got fired yet the people making these trash decisions still collect a paycheck. https://twitter.com/...
Mathew Ingram / @mathewi: I regret to inform you that yes, we're doing it all over again: A major TV network is giving Trump a megaphone, and a newspaper is promoting a thinly-sourced story based on hacked emails https://www.cjr.org/...
Jack Shafer / @jackshafer: “Sen. Josh Hawley...announced that he would investigate the platforms' [Twitter and Facebook] action as a possibly illegal contribution to the Biden campaign. (Which would make Fox News' prime-time lineup what, exactly?)” @CaseyNewton https://www.platformer.news/ ...
Robby Soave / @robbysoave: It's a huge problem that many in the mainstream media and pundit class (i.e. the people attacking Maggie Haberman for daring to share NY Post's Hunter Biden scoop) now think its their job to suppress information they don't want the public to read. https://reason.com/...
@barrydeutsch: Robby, does this mean your own policy at Reason is to carry every single story that's submitted or that you come across? And if you decide that some stories aren't worth carrying, does that mean you're suppressing information you don't want the public to read? https://twitter.com/...
Thuy Ong / @thuyong: i'm kinda biased but @CaseyNewton's newsletter is the best explainer on that nypost Hunter Biden article and its ramifications: https://www.platformer.news/ ...
Janira Planes / @janiraplanes: “These dumps, combined with the news media's obsession with campaign trivia and gossip, have resulted in whistle-drowning, rather than whistle-blowing: In a sea of so many whistles (...), we cannot hear a single one.” @zeynep cited in @platformer https://www.platformer.news/ ...
Mike Masnick / Techdirt:
The FCC has no jurisdiction over Section 230, which was explicitly written to deny the FCC any authority over websites — For years, FCC Chair Ajit Pai has insisted that the thing that was most important to him was to have a “light touch” regulatory regime regarding the internet.
Discussion:
Bloomberg, Radio & Television …, @mmasnick, Reason, @sarahjeong, @adamtaylorbates, @mathewi, @evan_greer, @esaagar, @nxthompson and @justinamash, more at Techmeme »
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Adam Jacobson / Radio & Television Business Report: Senate Seeks Simington FCC Nod Amid Section 230 Furor
Mike Masnick / @mmasnick: And, here's another person in Congress introducing a bill to undermine free speech online and ignore the 1st Amendment. Just imagine if someone in Congress argued that Fox News had to “play fair.” Rep. like Budd would lose their shit. https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Nolan Brown / Reason: The Portland Protest Shooter's Death Looks More and More Like Excessive Force—but Trump Keeps Bragging About It
Sarah Jeong / @sarahjeong: pretty much the tl;dr on this one!!! https://www.techdirt.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Adam Bates / @adamtaylorbates: I have never in my life seen so many ostensibly smart people be so unable to read a basic statute. https://twitter.com/...
Mathew Ingram / @mathewi: “Pai is wrong in almost everything. The FCC has no jurisdiction over Section 230, which was explicitly written to deny the FCC any authority over websites. The FCC has no power to reinterpret the law” https://www.techdirt.com/... via @Techdirt
Evan Greer / @evan_greer: Finally a balanced headline about Section 230 https://www.techdirt.com/...
Saagar Enjeti / @esaagar: Cannot overstate the importance of this announcement FCC Chairman @AjitPaiFCC says he has the legal authority to interpret section 230 and intends to do so with an eye towards transparency from social media companies on now clearly revealed biased content moderation standards https://twitter.com/...
@nxthompson: The Ajit Pai FCC until today: we need a light regulatory touch to keep innovation going. The Ajit Pai FCC today: the president is mad at Twitter and now we're going to dress up some bogus arguments and rewrite section 230 https://www.techdirt.com/...
Justin Amash / @justinamash: Ironically, @AjitPaiFCC is adding to the confusion by misstating the law. Section 230 does NOT convey “a special immunity denied to other media outlets, such as newspapers and broadcasters.” It applies all the same to social media companies, newspapers, broadcasters, you, and me. https://twitter.com/...
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Todd Shields / Bloomberg:
Ajit Pai says FCC will start a rulemaking to clarify the meaning of Section 230, and social media doesn't have “special immunity denied to other media outlets”
Ajit Pai says FCC will start a rulemaking to clarify the meaning of Section 230, and social media doesn't have “special immunity denied to other media outlets”
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Ajit Pai / @ajitpaifcc: I intend to move forward with an @FCC rulemaking to clarify the meaning of #Section230. Read my full statement below. https://twitter.com/...
Jessica Rosenworcel / @jrosenworcel: The FCC has no business being the President's speech police. #Section230 https://twitter.com/...
Todd Spangler / Variety: FCC Chief Warns Social Media Firms That They Don't Have Right to ‘Special Immunity’
Tom Johnson / @tommjohnsonjr: I've informed Chairman @AjitPaiFCC that the @FCC has the legal authority to interpret #Section230. We now intend to move forward with a rulemaking to clarify its meaning. Read the Chairman's full statement below: https://twitter.com/...
Karol Cummins / @karolcummins: A U.S. FCC decision to review a liability shield for Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. fulfills the wishes of President Donald Trump and his conservative allies, yet has prompted questions about the agency's authority and political motivations. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Rick Scott / @senrickscott: Glad to see @AjitPaiFCC and the @FCC addressing this issue. On October 28th at the @SenateCommerce hearing we will get more information directly from tech CEOs under oath. https://twitter.com/...
Aditya Chunduru / MediaNama: US communications regulator to revisit Section 230 safe harbour protections for social media companies
@jisraelbalderas: “The congressional record reflects that the drafters of Section 230 did ‘not wish to have a Federal Computer Commission with an ARMY OF BUREAUCRATS regulating the internet.’” See Restoring Internet Freedom Order 33 FCC Rcd 311 (1) (emphasis added) https://twitter.com/...
@jisraelbalderas: Looking forward to see how the FCC avoids an arbitrary and capricious ruling when it “clarifies” 230 while simultaneously “clarifying” that in its RIFO final rule, it found 230 to be determinative that regulating broadband as info service means free market deregulation approach https://twitter.com/...
Brendan Carr / @brendancarrfcc: FCC Chairman Pai announced today that he is moving forward with clarifying Section 230. This is great news, and I applaud his leadership on this important issue. My full statement on the need to reform Section 230 and rein in Big Tech immediately: https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Jay Caruso / @jaycaruso: “But they do not have a First Amendment right to a special immunity denied to other media outlets, such as newspapers and broadcasters.” You're right and they do *not* have special immunity, Chairman Pai. https://twitter.com/...
Josh Hawley / @hawleymo: This is a major announcement from FCC on #BigTech. Now Congress must act on #Section230 https://twitter.com/...
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Sources: Zuckerberg hosted Ben Shapiro at his home last year and then in August told staff that Courier Newsroom wasn't a real news outlet due to political ties — Facebook's chief, once uninterested, has transformed himself into an active political operator in the Trump era
Discussion:
@monikabauerlein, @alxthomp, @monikabauerlein, @monikabauerlein, @monikabauerlein, @monikabauerlein, @monikabauerlein, @monikabauerlein, @monikabauerlein, @slpng_giants, @lindsayschrupp, @lindsayschrupp, @lindsayschrupp, @leavittalone, @anthony, @jason_kint, @mccarthyryanj, Protocol, @lindsayschrupp, @mathewi, @taraemcg, @taraemcg and @steven_strauss, more at Techmeme »
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Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: I'm in a @MotherJones board meeting today so it's going to take a while to fully process this infuriating news, but just briefly (because YOU, as a news consumer, should be furious): https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Thompson / @alxthomp: Lots of great news in this WSJ Zuckerberg piece but calling Acronym just a “left-leaning non-profit” is misleading. The group has very partisan ambitions and Courier has been running targeted FB ads for frontline congressional members. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: But you can bet that we'll keep covering Facebook as the massively powerful company that it is, even if it tries to pull the rug out from under us. https://www.motherjones.com/ ...
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: At the time that this happened, Facebook claimed it was reducing the prevalence of “low-quality” news in users' feeds. Seems a reasonable goal. But guess what? When they did that, it turned out to hurt low-quality news from right-wing propaganda outlets. So what did they do?
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: They made changes so that actual journalism that reporters and factcheckers and editors and data crunchers and art directors worked their assess off on got downgraded, just to balance things out. So stuff like this versus stuff like this: https://twitter.com/...
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: And this had real effects. A roughly $400,000 decrease in annual revenue, for starters. There are positions we couldn't fill, projects we couldn't do because of this. But the bigger effect is on YOU, readers. YOU were kept from seeing news you wanted (even if you followed MoJo.)
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: Last thing before I go back into meetings, one reason this is so enraging is that I've so long insisted on giving Facebook some benefit of the doubt. I was convinced we were a random casualty of their broader trajectory, a fly on their windshield. But it's always, always worse.
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: .@MotherJones had a big presence on Facebook because our team worked really hard to bring quality news to users on social platforms, and people were hungry for that. But suddenly our reach dropped like a stone. https://www.motherjones.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Monika Bauerlein / @monikabauerlein: Just for the record, no one at Mother Jones has ever been invited to dine at Mark Zuckerberg's home. Nor should someone who wants to dine with propagandists ever call on us. https://twitter.com/...
@slpng_giants: Social media platforms should not take the politics if their user base into account AT ALL. @facebook is supposed to be a “neutral platform”. It shouldn't be taking requests nor asking for counsel from either party. https://twitter.com/...
Lindsay Schrupp / @lindsayschrupp: At @CourierNewsroom we have 60+ journalists across the country to cover issues that impact their communities and to build a more informed and engaged electorate. Every day, they report on local issues like voter suppression, access to rural health care, and environmental justice.
Lindsay Schrupp / @lindsayschrupp: It is beyond insulting to put their work in the same category as the far-right partisan blogs that spew bigotry masked as “news” and spread misinfo to harm our democracy — let alone to kick our reporters' work out of the News Tab altogether because we self-label as progressive
Lindsay Schrupp / @lindsayschrupp: There may be actual people at Facebook who believe in and understand the importance of journalism, but it is clear that Mark Zuckerberg has no idea what journalism is.
John Leavitt / @leavittalone: “Listen nerds this only makes money cause I can sell the data of the top 100 million enraged uncles most likely to fall for a phishing scam so shut your lib mouths and get back to pushing Daily Stormer links.” https://twitter.com/...
Anthony DeRosa / @anthony: “Mr. Zuckerberg is now an active political operator. He has dined with President Trump, talks regularly with White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, and has pressed lawmakers and officials to scrutinize rivals including TikTok and Apple Inc.” https://www.wsj.com/...
Jason Kint / @jason_kint: So Jared Kushner appears to have a lot of Mark Zuckerberg's ear according to this WSJ report. Neither know or care much about the public at-large based on their records. https://www.wsj.com/...
Ryan McCarthy / @mccarthyryanj: Mark Zuckerberg and Jared Kushner reportedly communicate over encrypted messaging. (A reminder that Kushner is a government employee, even though he has forgone his WH salary) https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Emily Birnbaum / Protocol: Facebook is infuriating Republicans. So why isn't that helping with Democrats?
Lindsay Schrupp / @lindsayschrupp: Earlier this year, Zuckerberg created a policy to block progressive news orgs like @Couriernewsroom from the News Tab, while giving free access to far-right aggregators and purveyors of disinfo like Daily Caller, Daily Wire, Breitbart, Federalist, Washington Examiner, & TheBlaze https://twitter.com/...
Mathew Ingram / @mathewi: “After the launch last year of Courier Newsroom, a network of eight progressive local-news sites that is part-owned by a left-leaning nonprofit with close ties to Democratic donors, Mr. Zuckerberg argued that Courier wasn't a real news outlet” https://www.wsj.com/...
Tara McGowan / @taraemcg: To be very clear, this “policy” does not impact right-wing media outlets including The Daily Caller, The Daily Wire, Breitbart, Washington Free Beacon + dozens of others known for spreading disinformation. According to Facebook, these are all still “verified” news publishers 🤬
Tara McGowan / @taraemcg: 🚨 WSJ confirms what we've suspected: Mark Zuckerberg directly intervened to prevent progressive news orgs like @CourierNewsroom from being included in Facebook's News Tab, while sharing meals with Ben Shapiro + exchanging texts with Jared Kushner 🚨 https://www.wsj.com/...
Steven Strauss / @steven_strauss: Strange how that happened https://twitter.com/...
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EU data protection authority finds IAB Europe's GDPR consent framework, adopted by Google and others, fails to meet required legal standards of data protection — A flagship framework for gathering Internet users' consent for targeting with behavioral ads — which is designed by ad industry body …
Discussion:
Irish Council for Civil Liberties: Data Protection Authority investigation finds that the IAB Transparency and Consent Framework infringes the GDPR.
Robin Berjon / @robinberjon: 🚨🚨🚨😺 The Belgian data authority finds that the IAB TCF infringes the GDPR. This isn't surprising: the @IABEurope CEO had said the same thing. The only unexpected aspect is how long it took for enforcement to step in. This is a good outcome 🧵 https://www.iccl.ie/...
Garett Sloane / Ad Age: Privacy watchdog slaps IAB and puts real-time bidding in advertising on notice
Johnny Ryan / Irish Council for Civil Liberties: GDPR watchdog's investigation finds that tracking and consent pop-ups used by Google and other major websites and apps are unlawful.
Roger McNamee / @moonalice: Is it possible that the era of unchecked (and dangerous) business practices by internet platforms may be ending? If the answer is yes, historians may point to the past 10 days as a key inflection point. https://techcrunch.com/...
Laura Kalbag / @laurakalbag: It's not that I told you so but... no actually I told you so. https://techcrunch.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Jason Kint / @jason_kint: Here is the full report. This is a big deal and looks to have a brief appeal process. Findings to be digested. https://techcrunch.com/...
Johnny Ryan / @johnnyryan: Great piece on today's material from @riptari, who has reported on our RTB complaints from the start https://techcrunch.com/...
Robin Berjon / @robinberjon: Which brings me to the final point: finding the TCF out of line with GDPR is a good decision, but Google's bidding system is no better and its lack of purpose limitation is staggering. It would be unfair for regulators to enforce on only part of the market. 🔚
David Carroll / @profcarroll: Adtech's trade group (IAB) found to have a massive GDPR compliance problem on its hands. Its lame attempt to try and become lawful is predictably disastrous. https://techcrunch.com/... via @riptari
Johnny Ryan / @johnnyryan: This is good news for publishers, which have had their audiences stollen from them for a decade, been subject to tracking based bot fraud, and subject to vast adtech taxes. Here's the view from a smart colleague working at the NYT. https://twitter.com/...
Ashkan Soltani / @ashk4n: The Belgian DPA (@APD_GBA) has found the @iab 's “Tracking Consent Framework” (TCF) which is used by much of adtech (incl @Google) to violate GDPR requirements for transparency, fairness accountability, and lawful basis. https://techcrunch.com/... https://www.iccl.ie/...
Jason Kint / @jason_kint: Nevermind me, just read this super important thread from data governance czar at The New York Times. https://twitter.com/...
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Gannett CEO Mike Reed announced that the company will be offering another round of voluntary buyouts starting next week — The company's CEO announced the changes during a town hall Wednesday. Offer letters to potential buyout volunteers will be sent out Monday.
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FiveThirtyEight starts three-week-long live blog to cover voting logistics, with posts that don't yet merit their own stories, reader questions, and live chats — From wild conspiracy theories to legitimate growing pains associated with implementing brand-new voting procedures …
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Sources: Comcast's NBCUniversal and some PE firms approached Disney earlier this year about acquiring Hulu or operating it as a partnership, but were rebuffed — Toward the end of 2019, Hulu delivered a proposal to Walt Disney Co., its controlling shareholder, outlining a strategy to expand …
Discussion:
The Streamable, @entstrategyguy, @masasoncap, @masasoncap, @theericgoldman, @theericgoldman, @theericgoldman and @johnjedwards3
Discussion:
Stephanie Sengwe / The Streamable: Disney's Deal with Comcast May Be Why They Aren't Going Global with Hulu
@entstrategyguy: @MasaSonCap @kasey__moore Still leaves me worried about Disney's global plans. I get they are going to use Star/Disney+/ESPN+ as the drivers, but I think the latest re-org really will exacerbate the “US v International” mindset.
@masasoncap: @kasey__moore Make sense to me. If Comcast was under the impression Disney was going to expand Hulu internationally and they don't, that seems like a miss by Comcast, and a shrewd move by Disney.
@masasoncap: @EntStrategyGuy @kasey__moore If they want to go international they need to go local, which is expensive, so time to attack the most profitable countries first, have excess adult library beyond Disney+ to fall back on for Star including the Fox library, and don't buy international rights to strong US content.
Eric Goldman / @theericgoldman: I think that has to be their huge eternal debate. They chose that name because of the power it holds as a brand but with it comes the “family friendly” perception. How far can they/should they bend that? I think both company folks and the public have a lot of varied thoughts. https://twitter.com/...
Eric Goldman / @theericgoldman: If Hulu became a hub on Disney+, would that make FX on Hulu a hub on a hub? #hubception
Eric Goldman / @theericgoldman: Interesting article about why Disney's grand, global plans for Hulu have not come to fruition. Lots to ponder about its future, including the “Could become a hub on Disney+” mention - because again, Disney owns a LOT of non kid-friendly content https://www.bloomberg.com/...
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Nexstar ABC affiliates dropped From Hulu + Live TV in 20+ markets due to a carriage dispute, though Hulu has replaced them with a national ABC feed — In the first major carriage dispute for the Live TV Streaming Service, Hulu + Live TV has lost Nexstar ABC affiliates on the service.
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NYT Magazine is winding down its At War project, a forum for exploring the experiences and costs of war, including the weekly Afghan casualty report — The Times project that has provided original reporting and firsthand accounts of conflict is winding down.
Discussion:
@nytimesatwar, @meslackman, @grayconnolly, @seamushughes, @patriciakime, @grayconnolly and @cucumbermarg
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Nyt At / @nytimesatwar: At War has served as a watchdog, both in its original form and its reincarnation, over the Pentagon, which has spent the last 19 years fighting wars that seem to simply flame out or lose funding, rather than definitively end in any kind of victory https://www.nytimes.com/...
Michael Slackman / @meslackman: Thank you @Lkatzenberg for all you've done for @nytimes and our readers. Looking forward to your next gig! https://twitter.com/...
Gray Connolly / @grayconnolly: Pretty amazing that the Wars last longer than the digital channels that tried to cover them. Truly the zombie wars of ‘lions led by donkeys’ https://twitter.com/...
Seamus Hughes / @seamushughes: “As we shutter this project, it will be up to you to ensure that your stories continue to be told.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
Patricia Kime / @patriciakime: We in the military/veterans journalism space need to make sure these stories continue to be told - @Militarydotcom @TaskandPurpose @MilitaryTimes @nytimes @WSJ @starsandstripes @washingtonpost @USNINews @thewarhorsenews @mcclatchy @Reuters https://twitter.com/...
Gray Connolly / @grayconnolly: Amazing to see the Admirals and Generals of the post Sept 11 era - given their professional incompetence & supine personas - ponce around here offering their gratuitous advice, as sons relieve fathers etc as if they were 1stC Roman legionaries guarding the Rhine https://twitter.com/...
Daniel Conrad / @cucumbermarg: This is a tragic loss. At War raised the bar on international conflict writing. They'll keep running the @NYTimesAtWar account though, so follow that if you value quality coverage of how conflict affects the people and places in and around it. https://www.nytimes.com/...