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Laura Hazard Owen / Nieman Lab:
NYT plans to give up control of its 77K-member NYT Cooking private Facebook group and hand the group over to volunteer moderators from its community — “I blame people who fight over brands of mayonnaise.” — “How many goddamn posts do we need to see of people's first Le Creuset? Seriously.”
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Erin Biba / @erinbiba: The NYTimes has lost all control over the Cooking Community Facebook group they created and so instead of moderating it they've decided to completely abandon the 77,000 member group to its own recognizance and take their name off of it. Which is somehow absolutely hilarious to me
Ben Smith / @benyt: @silviakillings @erinbiba @SamSifton But the Times was paying people to moderate it — and that's “a Times employee moderating comments for fb rather than working for the Times.” A chapter in the shift toward a biz that revolves around converting subs. Sorry, I was hoping it was about peas and guacamole too.
American Press Institute: Need to Know: March 19, 2021 — OFF THE TOP — You might have heard: Social media …
Lia Haberman / Lia Haberman's Newsletter: Social Trends & Tools, Mar 19
Caitlin Dewey / Links I Would Gchat …: If you can't stand the heat — A Facebook group left to its own devices is almost certainly a recipe for disaster.
@sfbeantown: @benthompson We regularly discuss this @discord with brands. Moderation requires active engagement with your members while encouraging them to also interact with each other. When it's done properly, it's incredibly powerful on many levels.
Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias: @benthompson I think “it's simply not possible to moderate responsibly at Facebook-scale” has implications other than “people should stop giving Facebook a hard time.”
Luther Lowe / @lutherlowe: @benthompson @mattyglesias Your positions on interoperability and “duty to deal” are at odds, Ben.
Ben Thompson / @benthompson: (I'm obviously poking a bit of fun but the truth is that moderation is hard!)
@bloombergme: @benthompson Yes. But NYT effectively said moderation is expensive. Community organizing is expensive! And realizing the damages of unmoderated forums they shut it down. They didn't say “AI will solve it”
Ben Thompson / @benthompson: @mattyglesias Absolutely. I look forward to the New York Times endorsing pro-competition policies like portable social graphs instead of privacy fundamentalism https://stratechery.com/...
Yann LeCun / @ylecun: Yup. Content moderation is really hard. And content moderation for 2.7 billion people speaking thousands of languages, with hundreds of different cultural, social, and political backgrounds is REALLY, *REALLY* hard. https://twitter.com/...
Erin Blasco / @erinblasco: Bookmark for the next time someone in a meeting suggests starting a Facebook Group. #musesocial https://www.niemanlab.org/...
Ben Smith / @benyt: @silviakillings @erinbiba @SamSifton I should say @SamSifton had only good things to say about the group and wishes its moderators well etc.
@juliareinstein: @benyt @silviakillings @erinbiba @SamSifton the people have spoken and they want me as moderator. it is time for a peaceful transfer of power https://twitter.com/...
Nancy Rommelmann / @nancyromm: “It was ‘non-food-related arguments’ that caused the group to fall apart.” Shocking. NB: Anyone who wants to talk only-baking with me, it's on! https://www.niemanlab.org/...
Laura Hazard Owen / @laurahazardowen: “How many goddamn posts do we need to see of people's first Le Creuset? Seriously.” @nytimes is giving up on its 77,000-member NYT Cooking Community Facebook group. What happens next? https://www.niemanlab.org/...
@brosandprose: Community management is a complicated skill. Too many brands and publishers have demanded that their social teams start facebook groups, set growth of members as the only goal, and not bothered to dedicated resources and staffing. Chaotic groups like this are the result. https://twitter.com/...
Tracey Taylor / @tktaylor: @erinbiba Serious question: How would you have handled it differently? I'd love to hear suggestions/elegant solutions for publishers on how to wind down or otherwise handle FB groups that have become unwieldy/unmanageable.
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: We need a YouTube channel exclusively dedicated to Facebook Groups drama https://twitter.com/...
Erin Biba / @erinbiba: Here's Sam Sifton showing the Times paid no attention to the group whatsoever. People post “dog pictures next to their soufflé” in response to nasty posts in an attempt to calm arguments as a form of self-moderation because the Times was so wildly absent. https://twitter.com/...
Amanda O / @colorcodedlife: Sounds exactly like what happened with the Skimmbassador group, but it took far less people before it went to hell. The racists and Karen's ruined it and theskimm sat by and let it happen. https://twitter.com/...
Tiago Dias / @tiagodf: It's “nearly impossible to moderate one the size of a small city. As it turns out, it's a full-time job — likely more than one — and one the Times no longer wants to do.” https://www.niemanlab.org/...
@carolsott: I had to laugh when my friend Linda sent this to me. The most insufferable group I've ever seen. https://www.niemanlab.org/...
@blk_amanda: As someone who has moderated social media for businesses in the past, and does it now for fun for groups... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Chris Moran / @chrismoranuk: Really interesting example of challenge of off-platform. Fundamental point: it means “a Times employee moderating comments for fb rather than working for the Times.” https://www.niemanlab.org/...
Margarita-core Noriega-core / @margarita: My guide to whether a newsroom should create and sustain a social app group: - yes, to cultivate and identify potential sources 🧩 - yes, to better serve core audiences 🍽 - no, if it's only to “improve” or “correct” sourcing 🚩 - no, if user goals and admin goals conflict 🧨 https://twitter.com/...
Delia Cai / @delia_cai: @benyt @silviakillings @erinbiba @SamSifton guys if you don't want it....can we have it
Brian Beutler / @brianbeutler: There sure do seem to be a lot of people (from tech execs to moderators) manning the boundaries of social media who realize that the best thing we could do for the world is literally turn the platforms off, but few with the mix of nerve and proper incentives to do it. https://twitter.com/...
Nisha Chittal / @nishachittal: So rare to see this reality acknowledged: “It is very, very hard to meaningfully moderate a big Facebook group, perhaps nearly impossible to moderate one the size of a small city. As it turns out, it's a full-time job — likely more than one” https://www.niemanlab.org/...
Erin Biba / @erinbiba: They're allowing group members to submit themselves to become moderators and then they're gonna just hand the entire group over to these randoms and peace out. I just. I can't stop laughing at the ineptitude.
Alex Howard / @digiphile: The @NYTimes could have built a social network around subscriber profiles (Remember Times People?), invested in a commenting system & building communities: https://mashable.com/... What @NYTFood did: built up a Facebook Group, & left it: https://twitter.com/... Notable context: https://twitter.com/...
Asian American Journalists Association:
In the wake of the Atlanta shooting, AAJA urges newsrooms to empower Asian American and Pacific Islander journalists given their sources and their expertise — Contact: Naomi Tacuyan Underwood, Executive Director / naomitu@aaja.org — On behalf of our broadcast members nationwide …
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@aaja: STATEMENT: AAJA Encourages Newsrooms to Empower AAPI Journalists and Their Expertise Since the shootings, we have heard some deeply concerning problems in newsrooms across the country, including in Atlanta: “Are you sure your bias won't show if you cover the Atlanta shootings?”
Nicole Dungca / @ndungca: the latest from @aaja: Newsrooms must empower their AAPI journalists to work on stories like the Atlanta shootings. If media outlets don't get access to AAPI communities because of language/cultural barriers, we miss major parts of these crucial stories. https://aaja.org/... https://twitter.com/...
Erin B. Logan / @erinblogan: were any white journalists asked this during the fallout of the Capitol siege? https://twitter.com/...
@bykristinep: This is the kind of close-minded thinking that newsroom managers should stop. Knowing people's language, city and culture doesn't make you a biased reporter. It makes you the perfect person for the job because you can capture their lives with nuance and sensitivity. https://twitter.com/...
Amy B Wang / @amybwang: Taking a moment to appreciate @aaja and @myhlee for their relentless work and advocacy for AAPI journalists always, but especially this week: https://twitter.com/...
Kat Stafford / @kat__stafford: This is akin to the objectivity questions Black journalists faced (and continue to face) while covering Black Lives Matter protests and the racial reckoning. This is all borne of the fact that whiteness is considered by many to be the objective norm in our industry.
@goawaywithjae: This is such sh!t. White journalists aren't told they're too biased to cover white people, but POCs can't be objective? They said this decades ago & it hasn't changed one bit. Hire reporters who speak the languages of the communities you cover, you stupid racist fvcks. https://twitter.com/...
Kat Stafford / @kat__stafford: This. Such important points. Why do journalists of color face these bias/objectivity questions? Would an editor ask the same of white journalists? Our personal experiences and understanding of communities helps inform reporting. https://twitter.com/...
Sergio Martnez-Beltrn / @sergiomarbel: Editors never ask white reporters whether their bias would show when reporting a story. They only ask journalists of color. That shows their bias, right? Good for @aaja for this amazing thread. I hope we all can stand in solidarity with our AAPI colleagues today and forever. https://twitter.com/...
Jill Geisler / @jillgeisler: Bias? No. Just no. Expertise and insight? Yes. Absolutely. https://twitter.com/...
Mariecar Mendoza / @sfmarmendoza: And this shouldn't just be a thing right now. This should happen👏🏽 every 👏🏽 time👏🏽 https://twitter.com/...
Melissa Luck / @melissakxly4: Thankful @aaja for this. Every journalist in my newsroom is qualified to put aside bias & cover a story. Sometimes, the people closest to it are EXACTLY the ones who should be covering it. The Asian journalists in my newsroom bring a cultural perspective that we're lucky to have https://twitter.com/...
@keopu: This is NOT OKAY. 😡 Are white journalists (especially men) being questioned if they can fairly and accurately cover the white man killer? Nope. White journalists who want to be allies? Now's your chance. Step up in your newsrooms for your Asian American colleagues. https://twitter.com/...
Kat Moon / @katxmoon: please read this thread. “Are you sure your bias won't show?” is a ridiculous response on so many levels. I've seen this week at TIME the incredible work that comes from a newsroom empowering AAPI journalists who want to be a part of the coverage https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Lee Myers / @amandaleeap: Unacceptable, ridiculous and another form of discrimination. No one asked if I'd be biased when I covered shootings of white people. https://twitter.com/...
Michelle Ye Hee Lee / @myhlee: Since the shootings, @AAJA members reported: -being fluent in Korean, knowing ATL, asking to cover but being told they may be too biased -being the only AAPI at work and feeling overwhelmed they have to represent all AAPIs -& more. To their newsrooms: https://aaja.org/...
Washington Post: As nation mourns Atlanta spa shooting victims, suspect's first court appearance is canceled
Gia Vang / @gia_vang: The burden of being “the only one” in the newsroom creates a professional and emotional toll ... may feel responsible for representing the entire AAPI community, often without the leadership titles to make editorial or staffing decisions. Via @aaja https://aaja.org/...
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Margaret Sullivan / Washington Post:
Media must stop taking official pronouncements at face value, using phrases like “police said” as shorthand for truth, and train staff to show less credulity — It's inevitable that reporters will have to rely heavily on law enforcement sources in the first hours after a horrific crime.
Discussion:
Talking Points Memo, The Lily, @mattnegrin, HuffPost UK, @mikerezendes, @poynter, @markfollman, @travisbubenik, @kat__stafford, Truth or Fiction?, Columbia Journalism Review, @chriscuomo, @eugene_scott, @annecw, @will_bunch, @s_m_i, @doristruong, @ibishblog, @kylepope, @myhlee, @myhlee, @aaja, @kwameopam, @menendezrand, @raju, @lfung, @sarahkaplan48, @s_m_i, @sulliview, Insider, Poynter, The Week and The Nation
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Cristina Cabrera / Talking Points Memo: GA Police Spox Who Boosted Racist Shirts, Said Alleged Spa Shooter Had ‘Bad Day’ Removed From Case
Christine Liwag Dixon / The Lily: The man charged with the spa shootings was quickly humanized. What about the victims?
@mattnegrin: It takes watershed moments to get simple media reforms like this in the mainstream. “Police say” should be scrapped from news copy because the police have been proven to be dishonest The question is why was Jan. 6 not a watershed moment for “Republicans say” https://twitter.com/...
Brittany Wong / HuffPost UK: The Racist Misogyny Of The Atlanta Spa Shootings
Michael Rezendes / @mikerezendes: Let's make it a complete 180: Stop regurgitating police press releases and start investigating the police. https://twitter.com/...
@poynter: Questions journalists need to stop and ask themselves: Are we parroting other news organizations because we think that gives us cover? Are we quoting the police because we think that protects us? Are we getting as many sides of the story as we can? https://www.poynter.org/...
Mark Follman / @markfollman: Safe to say yesterday was ‘a really bad day’ for media covering the immediate aftermath of the mass shooting in Atlanta. As usual, @Sulliview nails it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Travis Bubenik / @travisbubenik: “Treat the police like any other source, with the same degree of skepticism.” - so important! https://twitter.com/...
Kat Stafford / @kat__stafford: Evergreen reminder: “... the phrase “police said” is not shorthand for the truth.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Arturo Garcia / Truth or Fiction?: Did the Cop Who Blamed a ‘Very Bad Day’ for Fatal Georgia Shootings Promote Racist Shirts?
Christopher C. Cuomo / @chriscuomo: This sheriff said something stupid and may have an animus. Anyone who covers crime (as I have for 20+ years) knows with cops it is always report but verify. (Remember Duke Lacrosse case) but is a blanket bias vs cops the right solution? https://twitter.com/...
Eugene Scott / @eugene_scott: Part of doing better is remembering a core tenet of good journalism: Don't take everything from official sources at face value. “Treat the police like any other source, with the same degree of skepticism,” Susan Chira, the editor in chief of the Marshall Project. https://twitter.com/...
Anne Ward / @annecw: @Sulliview His empathy for the man who slaughtered eight people and his lack of empathy for the slaughtered victims were truly stunning. And worse, news media dutifully reported that “police said” it was not racially motivated.
@will_bunch: @Sulliview Great column. Last June, I wrote that “police said” are “the two most insidious words in modern journalism” https://www.inquirer.com/...
Stacy-Marie Ishmael / @s_m_i: there are some things white media people prefer to hear from other white media people. something about who gets to be seen as “objective”, etc.
Doris N. Truong / @doristruong: Thank you for this, @Sulliview. If I scripted bungle after bungle in news coverage, people would think it was far-fetched. But we saw many mistakes amplified over and over Wed. Are journalists stepping up their skepticism and taking time to do more complete reporting today? https://twitter.com/...
Hussein Ibish / @ibishblog: Insofar as they do, it must https://twitter.com/...
Kyle Pope / @kylepope: Great piece. Here's @alexandrianeas from @CJR on a similar theme https://www.cjr.org/... https://twitter.com/...
Michelle Ye Hee Lee / @myhlee: How to improve coverage of police statements, per @sulliview: “Don't take everything from official sources at face value. Interrogate the information before credulously retailing it to your audience. Verify. Corroborate. Include context.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Michelle Ye Hee Lee / @myhlee: “That's been an overdue necessity in covering recent Black Lives Matter protests, and is just as important in covering the Asian American Pacific Islander community. It's happening in many newsrooms, and none too soon.” Always read @Sulliview: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
@aaja: “Part of it is stepping up training for journalists before the crisis happens so that they are better equipped to cover fast-breaking news without credulously relying on police sources.” by Margaret Sullivan @Sulliview, ft #AAJAFamily @DorisTruong Read: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Kwame Opam / @kwameopam: “The @aaja put out a helpful guide on Wednesday for those covering the shootings: Use careful language, provide context, understand anti-Asian racism, diversify your sources, empower and support the journalists who are part of the Asian and Pacific Islander communities.” https://twitter.com/...
@menendezrand: 'It's inevitable that reporters rely heavily on law-enforcement in the first hours after a horrific crime. Amid chaos, the police may be the only ones with any hard information. But sometimes their information is flawed reflects a damaging bias.' https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Raju Narisetti / @raju: this...a conversation among POC in newsrooms for ages ‘Not racially motivated’?: The Atlanta spa shootings show why the media should be wary of initial police statements https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...?
Lisa Fung / @lfung: 'Don't take everything from official sources at face value. Interrogate the information before credulously retailing it to your audience. Verify. Corroborate. Include context.' Seems obvious but doesn't always happen. Important insight from @Sulliview https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Sarah Kaplan / @sarahkaplan48: “Sometimes their information is flawed. And sometimes the way they tell it reflects a damaging bias.” Essential reading from @Sulliview on why journalists must report police accounts critically and with context https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Stacy-Marie Ishmael / @s_m_i: thinking about black reporters who made this argument in newsrooms and what happened to them today https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Erin Snodgrass / Insider: Police departments across the US are increasing patrols in Asian communities, but experts say more policing is not the answer
Doris Truong / Poynter: The rush to report on Atlanta-area shootings amplified bias in news coverage
The Daily Beast:
Teen Vogue's new EIC Alexi McCammond, who was meant to start in the coming days, will no longer be joining the publication — The Condé-owned outlet's new editor has exited the job just days before she was set to take on the gig. … Just days before she was set to begin the job …
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@alexi, New York Times, @ryangrim, Politico, @tianathefirst, @asteadwesley, @kristina_wong, Ad Age, Poynter, @gladwell, @dansaltzstein, @zararahim, The Week, @mattzeitlin, @freeblackgirl, @freeblackgirl, @jeremymbarr, @dansaltzstein, @clairlemon, @zararahim, @ronmwangaguhung, @amandacarpenter, @thewayoftheid, @abbydphillip, @kurtbardella, @maxberger, @benyt, @thrasherxy, @isaacdovere, @jeremymbarr, @thrasherxy, @espiers, @ebruenig, @radiofreetom, @nelliebowles, The Media Nut, @timmarchman, @davidafrench, @ike_saul, @thewayoftheid, @rolandsmartin, @iamsophianelson, @lukerosiak, @samthielman, @offbeatorbit, @heminator, @emzanotti, @mehdirhasan, @davidafrench, @wajahatali, @nickgillespie, @stevekrak, @juliacarriew, @bymeg, @hillelneuer, @thrasherxy, @matthewamiller, @timmarchman, @sethamandel, @maxboot, @robynurback, @timcast, @mattwelch, @jonathanchait, @mattyglesias, @jonathanvswan, @mtracey, @vexedinthecity, @charlescwcooke, @slate, @legsfrank, @eiffeltyler, @travisakers, @hashtaggriswold, @michaelbd, @stevekrak, @eoinhiggins_, @maxwelltani, E! Online, @jasoncolavito, Dana Loesch's Chapter …, Washington Examiner, Washington Post, CNN, Newser and Los Angeles Times
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Alexi McCammond / @alexi: Hey there: I've decided to part ways with Condé Nast. Here is my statement about why - https://twitter.com/...
Katie Robertson / New York Times: Teen Vogue Editor Resigns After Fury Over Racist Tweets
Ryan Grim / @ryangrim: The staff of Teen Vogue successfully blocked an extremely well qualified Black woman from becoming its next editor in chief over tweets from when she was a teen that she apologized for years ago. https://twitter.com/...
Tiana Lowe / @tianathefirst: Teen Vogue was invented by a woman who reignited the fur industry, blocked black people from the most important fashion covers and newsrooms in the country, and coronates the de facto American aristocracy. Alexi McCammond is not problematic. Vogue is. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ ...
Astead / @asteadwesley: conde nast/wintour could've sought full staff buy in in advance of the EIC announcement. that carelessness makes me feel bad for Teen Vogue staff, and for Alexi. both deserved an institution that treated them better https://www.nytimes.com/...
Kristina Wong / @kristina_wong: I think the lesson is that cancel culture can come for anyone, not just those you don't like. Ironic that her racist anti-Asian tweets came out after she tried to cancel Charles Barkley for a bad joke. Good example of how cancel culture can and will boomerang. https://twitter.com/...
Ilyse Liffreing / Ad Age: NFL hands Amazon exclusive games, and Teen Vogue editor undone by teen rogue tweets: Friday Wake-Up Call
Malcolm Gladwell / @gladwell: I'm curious to know what the new age cut-off is for “youthful indiscretions.” https://twitter.com/...
Dan Saltzstein / @dansaltzstein: @ryangrim All else aside, how is someone without editing experience “extremely qualified” to be an EIC?
Zara Rahim / @zararahim: It is truly so easy to not tweet that someone facing consequences for racist opinions is dumb, especially when those opinions were harmful to an entire community, a community that is going through a lot of pain...yet here...we are. https://twitter.com/...
Catherine Garcia / The Week: Teen Vogue's new editor in chief resigns after past anti-Asian tweets resurface
Matthew Zeitlin / @mattzeitlin: some european publications — the guardian, le monde — formally involve their staff in picking the editor in chief, would be an interesting model for american ones to adopt as opposed to the more...ad hoc....way newsroom influence the selection or removal of their bosses
Evette Dionne / @freeblackgirl: A thread everyone should read. Look beyond the tweets from a decade ago. They were in very poor taste. That was not the only issue with this hire. https://twitter.com/...
Evette Dionne / @freeblackgirl: Alexi is extremely well qualified—just not for this specific job. She has never been a fashion editor and was hired as the top editor at a fashion magazine. I was a very young EIC too (28), so there is always some hedging about being too young. But that is not the case here. https://twitter.com/...
Jeremy Barr / @jeremymbarr: Update: An MSNBC source says that Alexi McCammond asked to end her contributor contract with MSNBC in February, before the news broke that she was joining Teen Vogue.
Dan Saltzstein / @dansaltzstein: @ryangrim In fairness, @benyt has noted that David Remnick (NYer), Jeffrey Goldberg (Atlantic) and Ben himself (Buzzfeed) didn't have significant editing experience before taking over their EIC roles. Still not sure she was “extremely well qualified” but point taken.
Claire Lehmann / @clairlemon: So grateful to @j4mi3p @jonkay @SwipeWright @toadmeister for not axing me due to my lowbrow tweets 🙏 https://twitter.com/...
Zara Rahim / @zararahim: “When she was a teenager” is a hilarious argument in a tweet about.... Teen....Vogue 🥴
@ronmwangaguhung: @mediagazer A very substantive conversation could have been had in the pages of Teen Vogue over racism, over what can and should not be said on social media, on taking responsibility for ones actions, on “doing the work” — but, alas
Amanda Carpenter / @amandacarpenter: This reflects much more poorly on Teen Vogue than @alexi https://twitter.com/...
Openly Black Studs Twerkel / @thewayoftheid: Do I believe she's still catching wreck over what happened with her boyfriend, the WH and Politico? Absolutely. But she gave folks ammo with those silly ass tweets. The game is the game.
Abby D. Phillip / @abbydphillip: I know @alexi and she's obviously not who she was when she wrote those tweets. I'm sorry to see that she won't be moving forward in this position. It's beyond fair to demand true remorse and accountability, but Alexi demonstrated those things and I wish she'd been given a chance. https://twitter.com/...
Kurt Bardella / @kurtbardella: 1000% agree https://twitter.com/...
Max Berger / @maxberger: It's unfortunate what happened to @alexi. She is a fantastic journalist who took responsibility for mistakes she made when she was a teenager. She will no doubt continue doing good work. But we need a new way to deal with public utterances from a generation who grew up online. https://twitter.com/...
Dr. Thrasher / @thrasherxy: 13. So, Wintour has a history of sidelining and tokenizing women of color. She made a poor hire, putting the hire (who, having never edited, should never have been there) and the staff in a terrible place. We are made by our histories & present.
Edward-Isaac Dovere / @isaacdovere: the standard being set here is that a few comments as a teenager which have been recanted, deleted and apologized for multiple times should nonetheless define a person's career https://www.nytimes.com/...
Jeremy Barr / @jeremymbarr: Another recent change: Alexi McCammond is no longer an MSNBC contributor https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Dr. Thrasher / @thrasherxy: WELP. ~EVERYTHING~ abt this hire was wrong. Teen Vogue had become a space for deep work critical of capitalism, race & gender. McCammond: —Was WAY too close to the WH/DNC —Had never been an editor?! —Had a poor racial *analysis* + anti-Asian writing —Staff didn't want her https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Spiers / @espiers: Aside from the tweets, I think it's pretty unusual to hire someone who's never edited anything before as the EIC of a large national magazine. She had political reporting chops but generally you have to have *some* editing experience to be “well qualified”. https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Bruenig / @ebruenig: seems somewhat strange that we have developed this (accurate) reading of racism, misogyny, etc as structural phenomena — and we know that teenagers aren't fully formed moral agents — but we punish adults for teenage mistakes reflecting a sick culture. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Tom Nichols / @radiofreetom: Yet another day I am grateful that social media didn't exist until I was already in middle age. https://twitter.com/...
Nellie Bowles / @nelliebowles: An industry now largely run by a movement of moralizing scolds who've (magic! it's true!) never been teenagers. As someone who was an idiot teenager, I can only look in awe at these perfect beings, sprung into the world fully formed like Athena herself. https://twitter.com/...
Josh Sternberg / The Media Nut: A fast rise and a faster fall
Tim Marchman / @timmarchman: I'd also question the assumption that the Teen Vogue staff is so unsophisticated as to be incapable of contextualizing old tweets and more concerned with them than with having someone who'd never edited running their newsroom.
David French / @davidafrench: The level of intolerance is unsustainable. This trend will come to an end. It's too unjust. It's too absurd. The only question is how many careers and reputations must be wrongly trashed and destroyed before this trend fades into shameful oblivion. https://twitter.com/...
Isaac Saul / @ike_saul: This is so sad. Alexi is a great journalist who tweeted shitty things when *she was 17 years old* — and has spent the decade since building a body of work that shows who she really is. Reporters and progressives alike need to start thinking about how to let ppl grow. https://twitter.com/...
Openly Black Studs Twerkel / @thewayoftheid: On behalf of Black women, “Nah.” This ain't it. https://twitter.com/...
Sophia A. Nelson / @iamsophianelson: This is NOT RIGHT. We have got to STOP doing this to good people because of old blog posts, old tweets, old Facebook posts, old college drunken videos, etc. We are fallible human beings. We get it wrong—who is able to throw stones? @CondeNast @TeenVogue this is not good. https://twitter.com/...
Luke Rosiak / @lukerosiak: Psst... they don't *really* believe in “restorative justice.” https://twitter.com/...
Ashley Reese / @offbeatorbit: Why does her being Black matter in this scenario? As if TV has never had a black EIC before dhdkdhdkdkdjz https://twitter.com/...
Mark Hemingway / @heminator: Totally agree, but worth noting had she taken the job at Teen Vogue she would have been editing a bunch of articles endorsing said puritan panics. https://twitter.com/...
Emily Zanotti / @emzanotti: But how do you square a publication that (ostensibly) treats 17 year olds as developed enough to engage on complex political topics (and in eclectic sex practices) with saying a 17 year old isn't fully developed on the subject of racial equity? https://twitter.com/...
Mehdi Hasan / @mehdirhasan: This made me sad and frustrated. Surely we can see the difference between active, current racists and bigots and people who said things long ago that they already sincerely apologized for? Have we lost all sense of proportion? And which of us hasn't said or done things we regret? https://twitter.com/...
Wajahat Ali / @wajahatali: This is dumb. These were tweets over a decade ago, when she was a teenager, and since then she has apologized and changed. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Nick Gillespie / @nickgillespie: More proof that woke #cancelculture is simply fire-and-brimstone Christianity minus any concept of forgiveness or salvation. Just eternal damnation. What a horrible theology. Conde Nast must be a horrible place to work from any perpsective. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ ...
Steve Krakauer / @stevekrak: Really solid work by The Daily Beast and the children that make up the Teen Vogue staff to block a young, Black, female journalist from ascending to an editor position... https://twitter.com/...
Julia Carrie Wong / @juliacarriew: they gonna do anything about the editor who commissioned this or just stay focused on a teenager's tweets? https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Meg Z / @bymeg: the thing is............. besides the racist tweets...... she wasn't qualified for the role? like at all????????? so I didn't understand this COMMITMENT TO THE BIT...... like was she worth the strife? https://twitter.com/...
Hillel Neuer / @hillelneuer: When the revolution devours its own: March 5: Condé Nast names Alexi McCammond, a 27-year-old African-American journalist, as editor-in-chief of Teen Vogue. March 18: Condé Nast fires her over racist & homophobic tweets she posted a decade ago as a teen. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Dr. Thrasher / @thrasherxy: This is incorrect, and there is a kind of race making happening when someone who has never been an editor is called “extremely well qualified.” & as much as I love worker power, she didn't quit over the staff uprising, but after advertisers pulled out. https://twitter.com/...
Matthew Miller / @matthewamiller: There is a legitimate debate to be had about how to judge people for actions in the past, to what extent they grow, etc. But I would hope we could all agree that judging adults in professional settings for what they did as a teenager is ridiculous. https://twitter.com/...
Tim Marchman / @timmarchman: She was not “extremely well qualified” unless you're using a standard that holds the editorship of Teen Vogue to be so insignificant that one wouldn't need to have had prior experience as an editor to hold the position, which would be telling. https://twitter.com/...
Seth Mandel / @sethamandel: Pre-firing her for teen tweets she apologized for several times is garbage, but doing it now as reporters are connecting it to a racist murder spree in Atlanta is beyond tactless. Infuriating to watch coward employers reinforce twitter's ‘people are disposable’ attitude. https://twitter.com/...
Max Boot / @maxboot: I just wrote in @PostOpinions that the rightist obsession with “cancel culture” is overblown and over the top (https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...), but there is no question, as I also noted, that there are some leftist excesses too. This looks like one of those. https://twitter.com/...
Robyn Urback / @robynurback: She wrote those tweets 10 years ago, when she was a teenager. As I wrote in a column last week, if she had committed a violent crime instead, she'd be out of prison, off parole, and the progressive view would be not to judge her by her past https://www.theglobeandmail.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Tim Pool / @timcast: Apologizing doesn't change what she said it just means she admits she did it and is now being held accountable for her actions, for the rest of her life She apologized before but it doesn't matter. This is proof apologizing doesn't work https://twitter.com/...
Matt Welch / @mattwelch: Whose lives were improved by this episode? Whose journalism? https://twitter.com/...
Jonathan Chait / @jonathanchait: I continue to believe that “anti-racist” norms are being enforced in elite spaces in ways that do not actually advance the cause of opposing racism. https://twitter.com/...
Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias: Hail the glorious victory of antiracism. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Jonathan Swan / @jonathanvswan: I've worked with @alexi for four years. I know her well and can say this unequivocally: The idea she is racist is absurd. Where the hell are we as an industry if we cannot accept a person's sincere and repeated apologies for tweets when they were a teenager? https://twitter.com/...
Michael Tracey / @mtracey: Suggestion: do not pursue employment in any conventional sectors of the online media industry unless you are willing to tolerate enormous amounts of psychic dread https://twitter.com/...
Corey Richardson / @vexedinthecity: This is bullshit. Losing a job as an adult over some shit you tweeted as a kid isn't how people learn their lessons nor is is fair atonement for her past wrongs. Best of luck out there, but this shit didn't help anyone, really. https://twitter.com/...
Charles C. W. Cooke / @charlescwcooke: Absolutely preposterous. There's no reason whatsoever why silly things a person said ten years ago—when she was seventeen—should prompt this reaction or this outcome. This isn't “accountability”; it's a puritan panic that leaves no space for growth. https://twitter.com/...
@slate: This was a questionable hire, even before the offensive old tweets resurfaced. https://slate.com/...
Allegra Frank / @legsfrank: i wrote about, among other issues, the exhausting illegitimacy of “i was young and stupid” as an excuse for your prejudiced social media history https://slate.com/...
Tyler McCall / @eiffeltyler: This is so rough. I maintain none of this had to be this way if Condé had any sense whatsoever. https://twitter.com/...
Travis Akers / @travisakers: #BREAKING: Alexi McCammond is out as editor-in-chief of Teen Vogue after backlash over racist tweets about Asians https://www.thedailybeast.com/ ...
Alex Griswold / @hashtaggriswold: Alexi McCammond is out at Teen Vogue, over tweets that were publicly available and she had already apologized for, and that she was asked about again during the interview process, and for which she apologized, again, upon being publicly named https://www.thedailybeast.com/ ...
Michael Brendan Dougherty / @michaelbd: I like the subtle Doublespeak nature of believing a brand called Vogue is about the marginalized. https://twitter.com/...
Steve Krakauer / @stevekrak: Outrageous. What a shitty time to be a young journalist. https://twitter.com/...
Eoin Higgins / @eoinhiggins_: Unsurprising, not sure how she was going to be able to manage that newsroom https://twitter.com/...
Max Tani / @maxwelltani: NEW: Alexi McCammond is out at Teen Vogue, will not be joining as EIC. Story w/@LachCartwright https://www.thedailybeast.com/ ...
Lindsay Weinberg / E! Online: Teen Vogue Editor in Chief Alexi McCammond Resigns After Offensive Tweets Resurface
Jason Colavito / @jasoncolavito: Regardless of the new editor's qualifications, or lack thereof, I am uncomfortable with spending so much time litigating tweets made a decade ago by a teenager, or sending her through a second full year of public apologies for them. https://slate.com/...
Dana Loesch / Dana Loesch's Chapter and Verse: I Can't Celebrate Cancel Culture, Even When It's The Left Eating Their Own
Tiana Lowe / Washington Examiner: If Teen Vogue staffers want to prove their wokeness, they should quit their classist company
Jeremy Barr / Washington Post: Alexi McCammond won't take Teen Vogue job after criticism of old anti-Asian tweets
Bob Cronin / Newser: Outcry Over Tweets Ends Hiring at Teen Vogue
David M. Herszenhorn / Politico:
Politico Europe Editor-in-Chief Stephen Brown has died at age 57; after a long tenure at Reuters, he oversaw the expansion of Politico Europe — Stephen Brown, the editor in chief of POLITICO Europe and a former news correspondent who reported widely from Europe and South America for Reuters …
Discussion:
The Hill, @gallardo_ortega, @hclae, @sofiadmateus, @margschinas, @cgs_atl, @naomiohreally, @harrispolitico, @noahbarkin, @kate_day and @jack_blanchard_
Discussion:
Thomas Moore / The Hill: Politico Europe's Editor-in-Chief Stephen Brown dies
Cristina Gallardo / @gallardo_ortega: I'm terrible sad for his family and friends, my @POLITICOEurope team and myself, but also for all of you who didn't know Stephen, because you missed an exceptional human being. https://twitter.com/...
Hanne Cokelaere / @hclae: This is very, very hard to grasp. Stephen was sharp, funny, kind; a shining example and a friend to all of us. To say he'll be missed is an understatement. https://www.politico.eu/...
Sofia Diogo Mateus / @sofiadmateus: Stephen was a wonderful boss and easily the most down-to-earth person I've ever seen run a newsroom, offering book recommendations based on your tweets, to go with the political commentary. He was an exceptional journalist and will be very missed. https://twitter.com/...
Margaritis Schinas / @margschinas: I had the chance to appreciate Stephen Brown's pleasant character, clever wit and ability to connect with others. He oversaw @POLITICOEurope expansion to a major trans European media outlet. He will be greatly missed. @SherazadeSemsar https://www.politico.eu/...
Cristina Gonzalez / @cgs_atl: It has been, and will continue to be, a tough time for the @POLITICOEurope family and we will do everything we can to support his family and honor his legacy. https://twitter.com/...
Naomi O'Leary / @naomiohreally: This is the most horrible news. Stephen was brilliant. https://www.politico.eu/...
John F. Harris / @harrispolitico: This has been a devastating week at Politico, with the sudden loss Thursday of @POLITICOEurope editor in chief @Stephen_G_Brown. He was an extraordinary journalist, with a special gift for human connection. Please read @herszenhorn's well-turned obituary. https://www.politico.eu/...
Noah Barkin / @noahbarkin: Tragic news. Stephen was a good friend & colleague. He was also an excellent journalist. But above all he was a good person - patient, thoughtful, never short-tempered even when under intense pressure. So sad that he has left us https://twitter.com/...
CNBC:
NFL finalizes an 11-year media rights deal, with Amazon Prime Video as exclusive partner for Thursday Night Football; sources: Amazon is paying about $1B/year — - The new agreement runs through 2033 and will feature two Super Bowls returning to Disney's ABC network channel.
Discussion:
Wall Street Journal, Vox, @sherman4949, The Streamable, @jbflint, Huddle Up, Hollywood Reporter, @rickcordella, NFL.com, @walsha, @sportingintel, @heathradio, @dorlandoajc, @chadgraff, The Verge, 90 Second News, @buccigross, The Desk, @jbflint, @carlquintanilla, @janecoaston, @stevekovach, @mattbelloni, @sherman4949, @caroljsroth, @ccoleman, @sherman4949, @richlightshed, @ourand_sbj, @jbflint, The Hill, Sports Business Journal, The Information, Newser, Front Office Sports, Financial Times, Insider and Awful Announcing, more at Techmeme », Thanks:@mattrosoff
Discussion:
Sahil Patel / Wall Street Journal: With NFL Deal, Amazon Accelerates Its Streaming-TV Advertising Ambitions
Peter Kafka / Vox: Amazon's $10 billion NFL deal is huge — and a sign that sports is staying on TV for a while longer
Alex Sherman / @sherman4949: The NFL has a deal! Scoops here: *Amazon gets full exclusivity for $1b per year (as CNBC had reported) *NBCU paying about $2b for Sunday Night Football *ViacomCBS paying $2.1b for AFC *Fox paying $2.2b for NFC *Disney paying abt $2.7b for ESPN/ABC https://www.cnbc.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: New Amazon deal for Thursday Night Football is for 15 games per-season and valued at around $1 billion, per-sources. That's four more games than Fox had. Amazon could get package as early as next season and in 2023 for sure. https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
Joseph Pompliano / Huddle Up: The NFL's $105 Billion Deal
Georg Szalai / Hollywood Reporter: Wall Street Reacts to NFL Deals: “The End of the Bundle as We Know It”?
Rick Cordella / @rickcordella: 👀🦚@peacockTV - stream all SNF and FNIA, plus a new excl. postgame show - serve as the excl. home of 6 NFL games - one each year from '23-'28 - stream Super Bowl after the '21, '25, '29 and '33 seasons - launch a virtual NFL channel, with classic games, NFL Films library. https://twitter.com/...
Allan Walsh / @walsha: Quite amazing really where NFL owners are celebrating $100 billion in media deals, NFL player salaries were cut and contracts are not guaranteed. https://twitter.com/...
Nick Harris / @sportingintel: Premier League earns £3bn a year from all broadcasting, home & overseas rights. Qs grow over future value of live sport yet NFL sign new 11-yr contracts worth £7bn+ a year, domestic only! Huge increase. $1bn a year from Amazon alone! https://www.cnbc.com/...
Heath Cline / @heathradio: Sorry, this must be a mistake. I was informed numerous times over the last few years that no one is watching the NFL anymore and they would be suffering great financial pain because of it. https://twitter.com/...
D. Orlando Ledbetter / @dorlandoajc: Why is there a salary cap on how much the players can make? https://twitter.com/...
Chad Graff / @chadgraff: This is why teams are comfortable backloading contracts this year. (Or in the Vikings' case, take on dead money via voidable years.)The salary cap is expected to go way up in the coming years. https://twitter.com/...
Thomas Ricker / The Verge: NFL significantly expands streaming deals as Amazon nabs Thursday Night exclusive
Bucci Mane / @buccigross: 10 BILLION A YEAR. TEN. 312 Million a team per year. https://twitter.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: Asked @nflcommish if this was likely his last NFL rights deal cycle. “You bet your ass,” he responded. https://www.wsj.com/...
Carl Quintanilla / @carlquintanilla: “Combined, the 11-year deals are valued at more than $100 billion, according to people familiar with the agreements. The league secured a combined average increase of 75% to 80% in fees from its media partners, one of the people said.” @WSJ https://www.wsj.com/...
Jane Coaston / @janecoaston: Every year there's some “the NFL is falling apart!” narrative and the league just brings in more cash. https://twitter.com/...
Steve Kovach / @stevekovach: Gonna be so many “buy now!” buttons on commercials during the Amazon NFL streams. https://twitter.com/...
Matthew Belloni / @mattbelloni: Truly the last hurrah for linear TV.... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Sherman / @sherman4949: I'm told Disney is getting a boatload of new stuff for its $ — 6 new games, 3 ABC Monday Night Football games, an exclusive ESPN+ international game (which starts in 2022, a year before the rest of the deal kicks in), the right to simulcast ESPN and ABC games on ESPN+.... https://twitter.com/...
Carol Roth / @caroljsroth: NFL's new media rights deal could be worth more than $100 billion— content, especially live sports— is king... https://www.cnbc.com/...
Christopher Coleman / @ccoleman: Prepare for an ADDITIONAL charge for Amazon Prime Video. This + the Middle Earth series just about guarantees it. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Sherman / @sherman4949: For Amazon, it gets a sure thing in the NFL that it can't replicate by throwing $ at scripts and hoping they succeed. Then again, Amazon is paying $1 billion per year for its package. Double then again, $1b isn't much to Amazon. Story with @JabariJYoung https://www.cnbc.com/...
Rich Greenfield / @richlightshed: WATERSHED MOMENT FOR STREAMING MEDIA AMAZON GETS ALL OF THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL 🏈🏈🏈 https://twitter.com/...
John Ourand / @ourand_sbj: The NFL will pull in $10 billion per year - a stunning number - from the media deals it that it makes official today. Here's SBJ's story: https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/ ...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: New NFL deals are valued at more than $100 billion over 11 years and include Amazon landing Thursday Night Footbal. ESPN and ABC score big as well with Super Bowls, more MNF games and another playoff game. https://www.wsj.com/...
Joseph Choi / The Hill: NFL reaches 11-year media deal with Amazon, TV networks
Martin Peers / The Information: The Briefing: Big Entertainment's High-Risk NFL Deals
Bob Cronin / Newser: New TV Deals to Bring NFL $113B, Increase in Streaming
Owen Poindexter / Front Office Sports: NFL Locks In $113 Billion in Media Rights
Tyler Lauletta / Insider: The NFL has a new $105 billion TV deal and Amazon Prime and Disney are the big winners
Andrew Bucholtz / Awful Announcing: NFL completes network/Amazon rights deals through 2033, bringing in $10 billion per year along the way
Thanks:@mattrosoff
Twitter:
Twitter launches a public survey on whether world leaders should be subject to the same rules as others and what type of enforcement action is appropriate — We first explained how we define the public interest on Twitter, as well as our principles and approach to world leaders on our service in 2019.
Discussion:
@twittersafety: Interested in sharing your views? Keep an 👀on this thread for more in the coming days. https://blog.twitter.com/...
@onairwithrick: Say all you want about @Twitter, but at least they are TRYING to make social media a better place. 👏🏻👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻 👏🏻 https://twitter.com/...
Dell Cameron / Gizmodo:
OANN broadcast and tweeted the email and cell phone number of a NYT journalist reporting on the network; the tweet, up for about six hours, has now been deleted — More than four hours had passed after Twitter was informed on Wednesday that a far-right news network had used its platform …
Discussion:
@dellcam, The Hill, @wiczipedia, Talking Biz News, @jamesrbuk, @donie, @moorehn, @donie, @wiczipedia, @dellcam, @dellcam, @thekenyeung, @slpng_giants, @lschmeiser and @dellcam
Discussion:
Dell Cameron / @dellcam: An account w/ 1.5 million users tweeted a link to a journalist's cellphone number. I've been emailing @Twitter for over an hour about it. No response from the company. cc @TwitterSafety Just remembering the time it acted on this quickly (when it wasn't a journalist's number): https://twitter.com/...
Nina Jankowicz / @wiczipedia: A friend of mine was doxed this week; Twitter did nothing in response because her private information was linked to, not shared directly on the platform. Twitter can't force this info to be removed, but they *can* refuse to allow it to be amplified on their service. For shame. https://twitter.com/...
James Ball / @jamesrbuk: Twitter's failing to follow its own rules here. Why? https://twitter.com/...
Donie O'Sullivan / @donie: Also wild. https://twitter.com/...
Heidi N. Moore / @moorehn: Doxxing is supposed to be against Twitter rules. @TwitterSafety what's up with y'all lately, is the department on vacation? https://twitter.com/...
Donie O'Sullivan / @donie: Pretty wild. https://twitter.com/...
Nina Jankowicz / @wiczipedia: SIX HOURS. 🤬 https://twitter.com/...
Dell Cameron / @dellcam: @JFA_USA @donie It was just deleted https://twitter.com/...
Dell Cameron / @dellcam: “Journalists should be allowed to do their jobs without harassment. Our reporter will not be intimidated and will continue to follow the facts where they lead,” a New York Times spokesperson said. OANN did not respond. https://gizmodo.com/...
Ken Yeung / @thekenyeung: What even does being safe on the internet mean anymore? https://gizmodo.com/...
@slpng_giants: How is this not doxxing, @TwitterSafety? This clearly violates your Terms of Service - and it's unimaginably dangerous to boot! https://twitter.com/...
Jim Waterson / The Guardian:
UK's Reach will tell three-quarters of its staff to permanently work from home as it closes dozens of newspaper offices in mid-sized towns — Reach, which also owns Express, Star and regional papers, will shut offices in dozens of mid-sized towns — One of the UK's leading news publishers …
Discussion:
Press Gazette, CityAM, @pressgazette, @david_hewson, @jackrivlin, @isobeljourno, @andyjey, @mattjp, @benquinn75, @imbadatlife, @fhamiltontimes, @karinwahlj, @ianvisits, @harrytaylr, @adamcrafton_, @dwright75, @jonbradyphoto, @mikejjennings, @tobirachel_, @sachinnakrani, @jasongroves1, @manaman_chhina, @pkelso and @jimwaterson
Discussion:
Charlotte Tobitt / Press Gazette: Reach closes most of its newsrooms as Mail Online staff return to office this month
Jessica Clark / CityAM: Exclusive: Daily Mirror publisher Reach to close a London office and make most staff permanent home workers
@pressgazette: @DomPonsford Reach's own staff survey found 89% said home working at least partly suited their needs and 54% said it gave them a better work-life balance, although 70% missed seeing their colleagues https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/ ...
David Hewson / @david_hewson: But how are trainee journalists supposed to learn if they're not in an office? I went through all that. Can't imagine picking up the job remotely from scratch. “Mirror owner to tell most journalists to permanently work from home” https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Jack Rivlin / @jackrivlin: Reach consistently finding ways to make being a journalist more depressing https://twitter.com/...
Isobel Frodsham / @isobeljourno: Just unbelievably sad and a terrible idea. Some of my colleagues who I sat next to in my early days as a reporter gave me some lessons that I still think about and use today. Reporting and editing is a collaborative process. https://twitter.com/...
Andrew Johnson / @andyjey: This is bad news for journalism. Journalists are constantly learning from each other, from discussions and spontaneous chats, and older journalists passing down anecdotes, tips, advice and standing over the shoulders of younger colleagues. https://twitter.com/...
Matt Porter / @mattjp: Jim's just doing his job here, but incredibly poor darts from whoever inside the company couldn't wait for all staff to be briefed before leaking this https://twitter.com/...
Ben Quinn / @benquinn75: Terrible news in particular for lower-paid younger journalists working in cramped conditions at ‘home’ & deprived of that initial newsroom face time https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Luke Bailey / @imbadatlife: based on my timeline i'm in a minority, but - this is going to happen more and more, and figuring out how to make it work could bring significant advantages to newsrooms that do it properly https://twitter.com/...
Fiona Hamilton / @fhamiltontimes: This morning I was talking to work experience students and it brought back some wonderful memories of the thriving, fast paced and brilliant regional newsrooms I worked in as a young reporter in Australia. This news is utterly depressing https://twitter.com/...
Professor Karin Wahl-Jorgensen / @karinwahlj: This is huge news in journalism. Major move towards the end of the newsroom as we know it. https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
@ianvisits: Journalists writing for the Mirror can work from home says Mirror newspaper owner. https://www.theguardian.com/ ... Also in the Mirror newspaper. https://www.mirror.co.uk/... https://twitter.com/...
Harry Taylor / @harrytaylr: Everyone loses here. Harder for young journalists to be mentored and learn, harder for reporters to collaborate, harder for editors to run a newspaper, and readers suffer as a result. Trebles all round. https://twitter.com/...
Adam Crafton / @adamcrafton_: Besides the obvious downsides of this, curious to know what this means for work experience/internship experiences. There's a lot of us who learned a huge amount just by being given the chance to observe and listen to newsroom conversations https://twitter.com/...
Duncan Wright / @dwright75: Will they be expecting their staff to have their own separate office space at home, fully compliant with H&S for work station set-up? Pay for broadband and satellite connections? Money over staff..... https://twitter.com/...
Jon Brady / @jonbradyphoto: This is a really disappointing move! While, yes, journalists *can* and *are* working from home, I'd say we do our best work when we're bouncing ideas off of one another and our editors (even when they say our ideas are shit). A Teams meeting isn't the same as a busy newsroom. https://twitter.com/...
Mike Jennings / @mikejjennings: More bad news for the local press. Can't help but think that companies like Reach are running it into the ground with its “cut off your nose to spite your face” approach. There's got to be a better way. https://twitter.com/...
Tob Rachel / @tobirachel_: If this continues across the media industry and the city sector in general ... does this mean non-native Londoners will leave London and native Londoners can afford London again and move back in from Essex and Surrey? https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Sachin Nakrani / @sachinnakrani: The longer lockdown has been going the more I've worried this would happen - newspaper groups seeing staff working from home and thinking ‘hang on, we can save some money here’. For reasons ranging from good collaboration to good mental health - journalists need an office. https://twitter.com/...
Jason Groves / @jasongroves1: Good luck to the trainee hacks trying to learn the job from home https://twitter.com/...
Man Aman Singh Chhina / @manaman_chhina: I have a gut feeling this will be replicated in India very soon. https://twitter.com/...
Paul Kelso / @pkelso: Learnt more in first six months watching, listening & learning from established journalists in a newsroom than in decades since. Also: the pub https://twitter.com/...
Jim Waterson / @jimwaterson: End of the newsroom? Publisher Reach (Mirror/Express) to close all small town newspaper offices, move vast majority of journalists to permanently work from home, national titles affected, goodbye expensive office space where editors can shout at reporters. https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
BBC:
BBC Burmese journalist Aung Thura was detained while reporting, along with local reporter Than Htike Aung; 40 journalists have been arrested since February 1 — A reporter with the BBC Burmese service has been detained in Myanmar as clashes continue between security forces and protesters.
Joshua Benton / Nieman Lab:
The price for Quartz' story-as-an-NFT reaches ~$1,800, with time left for more bids; the stunt also shows how journalism's value is divorced from market price — This is one of the eternal truisms of journalism: The value of news as a product only rarely lines up with what the market will pay for it.
Discussion:
Joshua Benton / @jbenton: This post has *everything*: — Monet's “Le déjeuner sur l'herbe” — “Turn that Veblen bad into a Veblen good?” — capitalist decadence at a fall-of-Rome scale — n00bmind, jarzod, and zonted https://www.niemanlab.org/...
Casey Newton / Platformer:
Facebook's newsletter tool will let it help people monetize their Facebook Pages and show it can support a different kind of publishing amid legal scrutiny — Today let's talk about platforms' growing interest in building newsletter tools — and whether Facebook, against all conventional wisdom, might have an opportunity there.
Discussion:
Casey Newton / @caseynewton: I wrote about Facebook's forthcoming newsletter gambit, and whether you should build your solo journalism effort on the platform. The company hinted to me that it won't take a cut of your subscription revenue 👀 https://www.platformer.news/ ... https://twitter.com/...
@jason: Has anyone ever partnered with Facebook and not gotten screwed by them?! https://twitter.com/...
Venkat Ananth / @venkatananth: This is an interesting analysis by @CaseyNewton on what Facebook sees in newsletters — a shift away from the News Feed (through integration of FB Pages) and a reader community model through Groups. https://www.platformer.news/ ...
Will Oremus / @willoremus: this would be an interesting move for a company that's already facing a federal antitrust lawsuit https://twitter.com/...
Michael Sayman / @michaelsayman: My guess is most tech conglomerates will offer some form of Substack. At which point, similar to how music artists have their music available on various music platforms, journalists will host their content on various “substack-like” services. No one service will rule them all. https://twitter.com/...
RELATED:
Annalee Newitz / The Hypothesis:
Substack's decision to pay some to write on the platform is an editorial one as it chooses what writing to support; its secrecy is a breach of journalism ethics
Discussion:
Vox, Horrific/Terrific, Webb Chatham Report, @annaleen, New Republic, @monteiro, @gaileyfrey, @_megconley, @andrewliptak, @nberlat, @annehelen, @annehelen, @adamconover, @erikabakse, @athertonkd, @annehelen, @bernybelvedere, @scalzi, @bernybelvedere, @andreablythe, @annehelen, @_cvd, @imgarysuarez, @oliverburkeman, @kottke, @blackamazon, @can, @jamessurowiecki, @carnage4life, honest to blog, @benedictevans, @bradydale, @kantrowitz, @jefferson1simon, @digifiend, @arctictony and The Supercreator, more at Techmeme »
Discussion:
@annaleen: Here's why Substack's scam worked so well. They paid a secret group of writers to make newsletters seem lucrative. In my newsletter this week, I talk about how it all happened, and why I'm out. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Alex Shephard / New Republic: What Is Substack? — Substack, the flourishing four-year-old newsletter company, has always touted itself as a savior.
Mike Monteiro / @monteiro: ...and if you want more detail about Substack's garbagefire, @annaleen makes the case very well here. (But honestly “they write paychecks to terfs and nazis” should be all you need.) https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Meg Conley / @_megconley: @annehelen There've been some real problems. AND. They need a real PR team which they probably don't have being a startup. There's so much good content on the platform from so many expansive people and I don't know Substack keeps failing to highlight THEM.
Andrew Liptak / @andrewliptak: What's notable here is that Gailey was one of the folks that Substack picked for its Bridge mentorship program. https://twitter.com/...
Noah Berlatsky / @nberlat: so this letter makes me feel like there are definite advantages to being too stodgy to be an early adopter and too much of a nobody to get offers from new platforms. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Anne Helen Petersen / @annehelen: They have also missed an opportunity to highlight all of the people they've given money to who are not Greenwald et. al. *through their public fellowship programs.* This is not private information. It is all right here: https://on.substack.com/...
Anne Helen Petersen / @annehelen: Substack recruited me and gave me an advance based on my unpaid newsletter subscribers and my open rate. They had an idea of what my subscriber income would be, and they offered significantly less. In other words: people who take the advances make significantly less money
Adam Conover / @adamconover: .@annaleen on Substack's scammy business practices: despite claiming that “any writer can make a living on Substack”, they were secretly paying large amounts of VC money to an undisclosed list of writers in order to make them look like organic successes. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Erika Bakse / @erikabakse: @gaileyfrey That's so awesome that https://ghost.io/ is helping you migrate!
Kelsey D. Atherton / @athertonkd: “So Substack has an editorial policy, but no accountability. And they have terms of service, but no enforcement. If you listen to Hamish, they don't even hire writers! They just give money to people who write things that happen to be on Substack.” https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Anne Helen Petersen / @annehelen: This is something that is absolutely getting lost in this conversation — which is a very important one. Substack has bungled the messaging at every turn. They missed an opportunity to come down very clearly on hate speech on the platform.
Berny Belvedere / @bernybelvedere: Legitimately one of the dumbest posts I've read. Lord have mercy. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
John Scalzi / @scalzi: It's never too late to go back to the blogs, people. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Berny Belvedere / @bernybelvedere: Ah, yes, the devilish scam of luring Matthew Yglesias via a sensible business proposition and meanwhile all I get is their platform and monetization tools merely free of charge. Absolute bastards.
Andrea Blythe / @andreablythe: @gaileyfrey I'm planning to make a move away from Substack as well for all the reasons you mention.
Anne Helen Petersen / @annehelen: I am going to continue to pressure Substack to do better on all of these fronts, from recruitment to hate speech and anti-trans rhetoric in particular. But if you keep focusing *exclusively* on these dudes you're eclipsing all of the other work.
Conor Davidsen / @_cvd: @kottke That this is a Substack post is possibly the most meta thing I've ever seen.
@imgarysuarez: Worth a read if you're following the Substack scandal. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Oliver Burkeman / @oliverburkeman: The logic here strikes me as tortured. I think Substack just saw a gap in the market, created by rapid recent ideological narrowing in existing media leaving large audiences underserved, and decided to capitalize on it. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
@kottke: “Substack's business is a scam. They claim to offer writers a level playing field for making a living, and instead they pay an elite, secret group of writers to be on the platform and make newsletter writing appear to be more lucrative than it is.” https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
@blackamazon: THIS and Substack did this while openly antagonizing populations It decided to defend “not having censorship” while it did It started mentor ship programs on “building audience ” While these folks were paid other wise to be comfortable https://twitter.com/...
@can: every reasonably popular substack should claim to be getting paid and thus force the company's hand to actually disclose the full list https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
James Surowiecki / @jamessurowiecki: If a publishing house gives a writer an advance, that does not make the writer an employee of the publisher. So it makes no sense to call people to whom Substack is fronting money “staff writers,” particularly given that it exercises no editorial control. https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: A challenge for Substack over the next year is proving that writers can make money on the platform who aren't subsidized by the company. YouTube, Patreon & OnlyFans pulled this off while Medium did not. Is a journalism based creator class a mirage? https://thehypothesis.substack.com/ ...
Kat Kourbeti / honest to blog: #12: quarantine life, year 1
Benedict Evans / @benedictevans: I don't understand the criticism that Substack can only make you money if you already spent a long time building a big audience that will pay for your stuff. Isn't that just ‘media’? You need a lot of work and a lot of Luck and no publisher/platform/tool can do that for you
Brady Dale / @bradydale: @benedictevans @jjaron If you're a writer and you saw Taibbi and Yglesias go on Substack and thought: “Yeah I'll probably get the same results” you have larger problems Which is another way of saying: yeah it's a tough slog but those of us in the biz also get that
Alex Kantrowitz / @kantrowitz: Fwiw, I think the “Substack is a scam” discourse is a bit overblown, They do not pay me, never offered, but I decided to set up a business there because I liked the economics and opportunity. So far, so good.
Jefferson Simon / @jefferson1simon: @karaswisher @Annaleen Disagree with this article. And Substack had been pretty open about paying some of the writers.
Darrin Hawe / @digifiend: @karaswisher @Annaleen So @analeen uses substack as a mass mailer (which it seems to do well), states that income stream isn't the goal of use, then isn't happy that potential readership growth isn't likely due to lack of transparency. If fulfilling it's intended use, I'm not seeing the problem.
Tony Haile / @arctictony: Whatever your position on this, feels like Twitter acquired @revue at the right time. They have a viable competitor to Substack with better distribution and none of the moral quandary. https://twitter.com/...
Hanaa' Tameez / Nieman Lab:
A group of climate journalists is launching The Uproot Project, a network for environmental journalists of color, to be modeled after the Ida B. Wells Society — The climate crisis may be the biggest story of our lifetime, and the news industry is increasingly coming to grips with the fact …
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