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Lexi Lonas / The Hill:
NYT editorial board is criticized for “both-sidesism” after announcing a project to identify threats to free speech from the political left and right in the US — The New York Times editorial board in an op-ed Friday announced a project in the upcoming months where they will identify threats …
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Will Bunch / The Philadelphia Inquirer: America has a New York Times-doesn't-get-the-First Amendment problem
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: The NYT editorial board thinks “America Has a Free Speech Problem” - and presents a purely mythical idea of what “free speech” is, an a-historical tale of the country's past, and a narrative that is detached from the current reality of the political conflict. Some thoughts: 1/ https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / Salon: What the New York Times doesn't get about free speech and “cancel culture”
@nycsouthpaw: The NYT editorial board collectively misunderstands freedom of expression. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: I've wondered, my own self, why this NYT editorial promoting the false “cancel culture” panic has upset me so much. I think part of it is this: I have fucking LOVED the NYT. Worked there. When it's great, nothing comes close. But it has fundamentally misread this moment. 1/
Corey Robin / @coreyrobin: 1/ Folks responding to the NYT editorial by claiming that shaming and shunning pose ZERO implications for freedom of speech, that allowing people to shame and shun is simply part of free speech: I don't think you really believe that as categorically as you're claiming here.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: Then we have this. Survey design 101: If you ask people if something is a problem, they will tell you it's a problem. This is called acquiescence bias - and it's usually discussed with agree-disagree questions, but it's also an issue with one-sided scales like this. https://twitter.com/...
Will Bunch / @will_bunch: It's pretty alarming the NYT lacks a fundamental understanding of Americans' free-speech rights. Here's what's worse: The paper's unsupported alarm over a left-wing ‘cancel culture’ only fuels the actual war on your rights - from the right My new column https://www.inquirer.com/...
@popehat: Dear @nytimes editorial board: regarding your op-ed today, what is the source of this right? Is it God-given? If so what's the scriptural source? Constitutional? Under what clause and recognized in what cases? /1 https://twitter.com/...
David Kaye / @davidakaye: americans, the times says, don't face Russia's “strangling of free speech through government censorship”. well maybe. but what are 'don't say gay', anti-CRT, anti-protest laws, journalist arrests and other state restrictions if not govt censorship? https://twitter.com/...
Scott Lemieux / @lemieuxlgm: I keep staring at this sentence in amazement. “We don't know what cancel culture is but we know it's bad” pretty much typifies the total lack of precision that is fundamental to most of these Free Speech In Crisis thumbsuckers https://twitter.com/...
@rudepundit: If you ever want to explain both-siderism to someone, use this from today's @nytimes editorial on free speech. The right is passing laws to literally make speech illegal, but the left makes you feel sad if you use the n-word. See? Both sides! https://twitter.com/...
Itai Sher / @itaisher: I like this thread, but one nuance I would add is that it is possible that shaming and shunning are free speech and free association but also have implications for free speech. https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Robinson / @manunderbridge: Dude disagrees with NYT oped about cancel culture, which he thinks is fake, a moral panic, then calls for editorial board to resign for publishing said oped. You're doing it right now, buddy. You are cancel culture. https://twitter.com/...
@coreypein: I submit that those of us invested in this conversation might get better results complaining less about “The New York Times” saying this or that, and instead putting scrutiny on A.G. Sulzberger's special role. https://twitter.com/...
Nausicaa Renner / @nausjcaa: I think the NYT's mistake is to view the alternative to both sides-ing as being actively liberal, which they don't want. But the actual alternative to embracing both sides as legitimate is to take a cold clinical eye to everything (which btw is why I love working at The Intercept https://twitter.com/...
@joyannreid: “It is true that white elite men face a little more scrutiny today than in the past. This has caused quite a bit of anxiety, which is what is really animating much of the ‘cancel culture’ moral panic.” Excellent thread on the @nytimes both sidesy speech “crisis” editorial. https://twitter.com/...
Matt Stoller / @matthewstoller: A lot of people during and after the Obama era made their careers on a highly obnoxious and judgmental way of doing politics. The NYT is saying their gravy train is over. Hence the screeching. It's de facto an announcement of mass layoffs coming over the next few years.
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: “By the time the Times finally realizes what side it's on, it may be too late.” Read @Will_Bunch on that statement of worldview the New York Times published this week under guise of a editorial. https://www.inquirer.com/...
Peter A. Shulman / @pashulman: So there has been much discussion, and mostly criticism of the NYT's editorial the other day about “free speech,” especially its opening paragraph appealing earnestly to a right that has never before actually existed https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Jason Linkins / @dceiver: pretty fundamental rule of writing is that you have to define your terms; I can't imagine a getting away with a sentence like this in the tenth grade, let alone the most important newspaper in America https://twitter.com/...
Leonard Pitts, Jr / @leonardpittsjr1: I usually try to avoid attacking peers in this space, but really, @NYTimes this is an embarrassingly ignorant statement. There is NO right to say what you want without being called on it. Only without being arrested for it. You're the “newspaper of record.” Do better. https://twitter.com/...
Niall Ferguson / @nfergus: Good: @nytimes belatedly notices that we have a “free speech problem.” Bad: editorial board doesn't seem to understand the relevant law or history. Editorial here: https://www.nytimes.com/... Good digest of why it's muddled here: https://whyevolutionistrue.com/ ...
@sorayamcdonald: “Is it a coincidence the phrase “cancel culture” was invented when systems of patriarchy and white supremacy were suddenly the things being ‘shamed and shunned?’” https://www.inquirer.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: “Cancel culture very much exists. The right invented it. A century ago they fired people trying to organize unions,” a commenter writes. They still do. I bet more people are fired for organizing unions than for any other kind of speech. https://presswatchers.org/...
Pradheep J. Shanker / @neoavatara: And yet, when the paper marginalized people internally that disagreed with the liberal majority, people like this stayed silent. They really don't have much credibility on this issue. https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Picciuto / @epicciuto: If it's raining, and someone is screaming that a tornado is destroying their homes, you tend to focus less on acknowledging that rain is bad than you do on that their homes is not being destroyed. https://twitter.com/...
Elad Nehorai / @eladnehorai: These arguments always, always ignore power imbalances. There is a difference between shaming on social media (difficult as it may be) and shaming when it comes from the powerful. These exist in two different realms, and it's disingenuous to pretend the separation isn't there. https://twitter.com/...
Maia / @monetaristmaia: The “without being shamed or shunned” is doing a lot of work because like, you're free to say whatever you want without going to jail, but people are also free to say you're a stupid asshat. Being shamed is also a form of speech, after all https://twitter.com/...
Charlie Sykes / Morning Shots: Yes, Cancel Culture is Real
Sean Spicer / @seanspicer: amazing that a publication that has been at the forefront of quelling speech and opinions on right has the gall to print this Opinion | America Has a Free Speech Problem - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/...
Paul Sherman / @paulmsherman: I have resisted commenting on this editorial, but it's about freedom of speech and has broken everyone's brain, so here goes. The central point of NYT's op-ed—that we need to be more tolerant of bad opinions—comes directly from Chapter 1 of On Liberty. https://presswatchers.org/...
Eric Reinhart / @_eric_reinhart: Old liberal fantasy: best argument wins in an inevitable arc toward justice. New liberal fantasy: no one wins or loses; we all just voice opinions. Justice is giving all voices equal space. Both depend on disavowal of power, ideology, & the unevenly borne effects of discourse. https://twitter.com/...
@yottapoint: I am genuinely curious as to how the NYT editorial board believes all Americans always had the right to say anything without facing any consequences for their words. What American history book is this completely bizarre claim based on? https://twitter.com/...
Corey Robin / @coreyrobin: One set of responses/QTs of this thread are people claiming, yes, I do believe that shunning and shaming pose zero implications for free speech. Another set of responses are people claiming no one believes this. https://twitter.com/...
Corey Stoughton / @coreystoughton: Who is saying this? People are rightly mocking the NYT editorial board for calling “freedom from being shamed or shunned” a “fundamental right” of Americans. Because it's just not and they should know better. https://twitter.com/...
@derfbackderf: More fallout from @nytopinion jaw-dropping opinion piece on “free speech.” At the end of my daily newspaper career in the early 90s, I loudly stated that papers should ax their editorial page. This, from a former political cartoonist. https://presswatchers.org/... via @froomkin
Karen Attiah / @karenattiah: “Cancel culture"* anxiety is not about free speech. It's about status anxiety. It's not a coincidence that “cancel culture” is now a pejorative after #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter targeted the existing sexist + racist structures in America. We are in a power struggle.
Conor Friedersdorf / @conor64: The New York Times editorial board makes errors from time to time. And makes what many of us regard as untenable positive liberty claims from time to time. But most of those don't generate calls for the authors to resign. Interesting that this editorial has. https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: It has fundamentally failed the moment. The paper decided not to defend liberal democracy. Everything since then - including yesterday - perhaps the worst single day in the paper's history - adds to that stain. https://twitter.com/...
Franklin Leonard / @franklinleonard: This is an absolute embarrassment. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Ted Lieu / @tedlieu: The fundamental problem with this preachy @nytopinion editorial is the assumption that there are both sides to everything. That is false. The earth is not flat. COVID vaccines don't have microchips. Trump did not win the 2020 election. I will not coddle folks who have dumb views. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Suggesting that wiser and more open-minded editors be put in charge of an essential public forum is not canceling people for speech, it's an earnest attempt to widen the public dialogue 1/2 https://presswatchers.org/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: As the right has become more explicitly an anti-Democratic ethnonationalist movement, the NYT (unlike, say, WaPo) has seen its fundamental duty to be a paper for “both sides.” It sees its fundamental flaw in 2016 as not grokking the Trump fan. 2/
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: If you doubt for a moment The Times' turn to sympathy with the white-right, let this end those doubts: a yes-but attack on the left for making white people uncomfortable. Here is white victimhood, naked to behold. 5/ https://twitter.com/...
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: I agree: misread the moment. They want it to be a normal conflict between left and right, so that their distancing tactics still work. They do not work. The centrist contrarian space — with its imaginary midpoint between extremes — is refuge-seeking, not truth-seeking behavior. https://twitter.com/...
Sherrilyn Ifill / @sifill_ldf: Thank you @tzimmer_history for this excellent THREAD laying out in detail what the NYT Editorial Board gets so distressingly and irresponsibly wrong in its presentation of “America's Free Speech” problem. https://twitter.com/...
Eric Alterman / @eric_alterman: That and an odd bit of partisan both-sidesing, conflating the left's engagement in criticism with the right's leveraging the law to control speech, one of which is more of a risk to the First Amendment than the other. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Kevin M. Kruse / @kevinmkruse: This whole thread on how the @nytimes is badly misreading this moment. https://twitter.com/...
Philip Bump / @pbump: It's not just that the Times editorial about “free speech” was a rhetorical mess. It also pretended there was some great mystery where none exists. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Innumerable Aidan Comerfords / @aidanctweets: My good, privileged man, often the only weapons minorities have against Establishment bigotry is “shunning and shaming,” like bows in a quiver, against their nuclear arsenal, and “cancel culture,” and this NYT article, is the Establishment's attempt to disarm them. 1/ https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: ICYMI: My response to the New York Times running a pathetic and irrational and 2,500 word piece on “cancel culture.” https://www.salon.com/...
Patterico / The Constitutional Vanguard: What the New York Times Editorial on “Cancel Culture” Gets Right . . . and Wrong
Keith Olbermann / @keitholbermann: You're goddamned right “America has a free speech problem” - the @nytimes editorial board has lost the plot. There's freedom to have ANY opinion. There is NOT freedom to have ANY opinion without consequences. THAT is ‘yelling fire in a crowded theater.’ https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: It breaks my heart. There is so much great work there. Right now, heroic NYT journalists are on the frontlines in Ukraine. But cover America like you cover Ukraine! It's OK. It's good to report the truth. 6/end
@dynamicsymmetry: I also find it much easier to respond to positions I basically make up in order to respond to them https://twitter.com/...
Killjoy McCoy / @letsgoayo: how are you a professor of political science and you don't understand that there is more than one (1) person in the world? Let me help: If one person speaks freely... ...and nobody is allowed to “shame” them... ...then other people don't have free speech. https://twitter.com/...
Philip Bump / @pbump: That Times editorial about “free speech” was not very good for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is that it applies a bizarre frame to an obvious set of issues that's being exploited for political purposes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
@moeednj: Very well thought out Analysis & Message from the Editorial Board of New York Times! this explains how over the years American society & politics has lots its ability to “express freely” - But Must Read in India & Pakistan! https://www.nytimes.com/...
Mikki Kendall / @karnythia: Freedom of speech has never been from consequences. The fact that the consequences are no longer one sided doesn't mean free speech is under attack. It means if you dish it, you better be ready to take it. https://twitter.com/...
Dr Jordan B Peterson / @jordanbpeterson: Yes and it's your bloody fault in no small part @nytimes Opinion | America Has a Free Speech Problem - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/...
Brent Toderian / @brenttoderian: This is a really important thread. #freespeach #CancelCulture https://twitter.com/...
Walter Shaub / @waltshaub: I'm still trying to get my mind around the notion that a major newspaper's editorial board thinks that having your ideas liked is a fundamental human right and that the denial of social acceptance is a more urgent crisis than the rise of fascism.
@theradr: Like, we can talk about what is the most productive way to have a public conversation but WTF is this FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT to say what I want without FEAR of SHAME — show me in the text of the Constitution where it says that. Show me.
@theradr: Also the person receiving pushback is the one who decides if they experience that as fear or shame. I've been slammed in public many times—unkindly—& I receive it either as a helpful correction delivered in a way that humbles me or as a POV I disagree with. Shame is optional.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez / @aoc: Imagine living in the US today, where the #1 source of domestic terrorism is far-right groups(per FBI!), books about slavery are getting banned, parents are criminalized for trans kids, yet asserting the 1st amendment is about protecting bigots from feeling embarrassed in public.
@usconst_amend_i: A free country where people have the right to speak without the fear of being shamed or shunned is an oxymoron, a paradox, something that belongs in Catch-22. Some people want to use their speech to shame and shun, and if you deny them that right, it's not a free country. https://twitter.com/...
Christina Sommers / @chsommers: The NYTimes editorial board finally acknowledges the existence of a censorious & stifling “cancel culture.” This acknowledgment infuriates cancel-culture-deniers @AdamDavidson @stevesilberman & @froomkin who now demand the board be cancelled. 😬 https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Moore / @theauthorguy: I would add to the Free Speech dialogue today based on the NY Times Board Editorial: https://www.nytimes.com/... (Sorry if you can't access it, I guess it's not free.) The Problem, as the NY Times frames it, is that people are not free from criticism for what they say.
Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux / @ameliatd: I want “If you ask people if something is a problem, they will tell you it's a problem” printed on a t-shirt. https://twitter.com/...
Geoffrey Skelley / @geoffreyvs: So many poorly framed questions in this poll that got the answers the editorial needed to supposedly back up its argument. https://twitter.com/...
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: Okay, I have to stop because I need to get on with life/work. But I encourage you to look at the full poll. It's really interesting! And it doesn't necessarily support what NYT says it does - at least, that's not the full story here. https://int.nyt.com/...
Katie Mack / @astrokatie: @nycsouthpaw It reminds me of the dichotomy in that old Margaret Atwood quote: “Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.” Being afraid of being laughed at and being afraid of being killed are really not at all the same problem.
@nycsouthpaw: This goes further than the typical “speech for me, but not for thee” sophistry that portrays criticism or “shaming” as a denial of free speech. It suggests “shunning”—just quietly refusing to associate with the avowed bigot or the holocaust denier—is a breach of their rights.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: A thread on why the NYTimes op-ed is a bad use of polling. To be clear, I am talking about the USE of it; this is not about the fine folks at Siena. The poll is used to say OMG, LOOK, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM. Here's why that's a bad use of the polling:
Katie Mack / @astrokatie: @nycsouthpaw The fact that they did a bunch of polls asking about whether people kept quiet for fear of “retaliation or harsh criticism” but did not separate the results by WHICH of those things was specifically feared is a great example of entirely missing out on the important issues here.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: Final note - and this one is praise - good for all involved for releasing the question wording and order. That is crucial to survey transparency and good practice.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: We start here. People are saying they “hold their tongue.” Okay. I grew up with the attitude that you don't talk about politics or religion in polite company. (lol that I study both - that lesson sank in, eh?) Filtering is a way of getting along in the world. This is not new. https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Ingraham / @_cingraham: @AstroKatie @nycsouthpaw “Retaliation” is such a bad survey word. So much vagueness there - what kind of retaliation? And from who? The whole thing's just a trainwreck
William K. Wolfrum / @wolfrum: Cancel Culture is like Wordle. It was all anyone could talk about for a while but then the NY Times got involved and a lot of people started realizing it was a waste of time and effort.
@kagrox: My shunning is a sincerely held religious belief! You're canceling my cancel culture, and it's religious bigotry to do so!
Ari Cohn / @aricohn: I'm just terribly surprised that the NYT editorial board published a scandalously stupid piece. https://twitter.com/...
Kai Ryssdal / @kairyssdal: What Ken said... https://twitter.com/...
@govtrack: The @nytimes is out with quite possibly their worst editorial ever saying that no one should ever be held accountable for mistakes. Let's make up for this by strengthening all of our efforts to hold elected officials accountable for their words and actions. https://twitter.com/...
Helen Kennedy / @helenkennedy: I guess the NYT thinks this tweet violates their made-up right not to be shamed for dumb opinions. https://twitter.com/...
Julian Sanchez / @normative: I agree with all of this, but also think in a healthy liberal culture there's a fairly limited domain of views we should treat as beyond the pale & best responded to by condemning the people who utter them rather than engaging with civil counterarguments. https://twitter.com/...
@popehat: /6 You posit this as a fundamental right of citizens of a free country. Are there remedies for its breach, punishments for breaching it? If I shun and shame you for this editorial am I violating your rights? And, I take it, I don't have the right to do that, in this free country?
Tim Carvell / @timcarvell: @Popehat “What they meant was...” We know what they meant. Their problem is that they accidentally said it.
Gabriel Malor / @gabrielmalor: I'm not sure what “mask is fully off now,” but White is correct to probe NYTimes' claim that there is a fundamental right to be free of shaming or shunning for speech. There is no such right, and White's thread, which is worth reading in full, simply explores the concept. https://twitter.com/...
@popehat: /11 The legally, morally, and philosophically incoherent error is to try to invent a categorical distinction between speech and response speech — to believe the First Speaker is privileged and should be encouraged and nurtured, but critics held at bay.
@popehat: /2 Since you say it's not merely a right, but a FUNDAMENTAL right, what historical and philosophical writings would you cite for its existence? Not a mere right to speech, mind you — a right to speak “without fear of being shamed or shunned.”
@popehat: /4 Given that the Times' editorial board believes this fundamental right exists, does the Times conduct its personnel affairs according to it? Are NYT journalists protected from being shamed or shunned at the Times?
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: Teachers, journalists, newspaper publishers, lawyers, architects, engineers across the country are being fired and losing PUBLIC contracts for refusing to give up their right to free speech. https://www.aclu.org/...
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: The @nytimes managed to run a massive editorial allegedly dissecting free speech issues ailing our country and completely missed Americans actually losing their livelihoods over political speech that the governments doesn't like, i.e. advocating for Palestinian human rights.
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: The @ACLU and @CAIRNational have launched numerous lawsuits in Kansas, Arizona, Texas, Arizona and Arkansas on behalf of a diverse group of public contractors. So far, they've won all of their cases. https://www.aclu.org/...
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: In addition, copy cat versions of these laws are now spreading across the country that target those advocating for climate justice and sensible gun control laws. https://www.nprillinois.org/ ...
@popehat: It's really kind of grim the way people are saying “well, maybe it wasn't expressed perfectly, but...” like it was an essay by your eighth-grade nephew and not the editorial board of the New York Fucking Times. Resist the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: You want some big numbers? 232 bills have been introduced attempting to criminalize or punish Americans engaged in advocacy for Palestinian human rights. 33 states, including liberal NY and California, have laws in the books TODAY. https://legislation.palestinelegal.org/
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: Despite consistent defeats in courts, States are refusing to strike down the laws, choosing instead to “tweak” them so that the plaintiffs lose standing. https://www.texastribune.org/ ...
Rick Hasen / @rickhasen: From someone who has thought deeply about free expression around the world: https://twitter.com/...
@giladedelman: This is not a rhetorical question—I would like to hear people's answers to this https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Kosseff / @jkosseff: Exactly this. It's fine to debate civility and cancel culture, but it is incredibly disappointing to see so many people fail to distinguish those issues from government censorship. (hint: only one could result in a speaker going to prison) https://twitter.com/...
David Kaye / @davidakaye: yes, the editorial is critical of state restrictions but for some reason can't just call it what it is - a systematic political assault on the right to freedom of expression. here! in america! https://twitter.com/...
Andrea Grimes / @andreagrimes: < taps the sign > https://twitter.com/...
David Roberts / @drvolts: It is, among other things, just *embarrassing*. That editorial in the NYT is just flat fucking embarrassing. I know the people involved are too up their own rear ends to realize they should be embarrassed, but they really, really should.
Lili Loofbourow / @millicentsomer: look, being shamed *is* painful! so is (for example) having to “objectively” debate whether your existence rises to the category of full personhood against people who have never had theirs questioned—or whether or not you should be forced to give birth.
James Gleick / @jamesgleick: I was going to complain about this astonishingly bad editorial, but @tzimmer_history is more patient than I am, and instead of complaining he eviscerates it. 🧵 https://twitter.com/...
Sean Carroll / @seanmcarroll: A good thread about a bad NYT editorial. Threats to free speech are real and should be fought against. But much of the current hoopla is about certain people who used to be the *only* ones able to speak freely, now having to think about other perspectives, and they don't like it. https://twitter.com/...
Teri Kanefield / @teri_kanefield: Sort of funny that the NY Times editorial seems to think “free speech” means “freedom to say whatever you want without fear of ridicule” and all I want to do is ridicule that editorial. https://twitter.com/...
@shelleypowers: @politicalelle Not what happened. Too bad you can't get anything right. https://yaledailynews.com/...
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: In fact, the editorial actively obscures the threat from the Right, assuring us that, unlike in Russia, actual government censorship is “not the kind of threat to freedom of expression that Americans face.” Then what are all these state-level GOP education bills about? 16/ https://twitter.com/...
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: Crucially, the editorial itself is proof of this, uhm, imbalance of empirical evidence - it cites the state-level Republican assault and never comes up with anything from the “Left” that would be remotely equivalent. But that has no influence on how the problem is framed. 15/
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: Unfortunately, this editorial matters. People don't shrug this off as “Just one editorial” - they read it as “the NYT says...” And with that, the idea that America is facing a free speech crisis, that cancel culture is real, and that *both sides* are at fault becomes dogma. /end
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: Anyway when I made my video about this a few weeks ago I thought all the Republican anti-speech efforts were going to make the debate irrelevant. But literally nothing is going to stop elites from writing this same article another 100 times so enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/...
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: Nothing makes me pessimistic about the future of the U.S. quite like this. “What were you doing when Republicans were passing a wave of voter- and speech-suppression laws?” “Well son, I mostly wrote how the people opposing those efforts were irritating to me personally.”
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: The idea that these two phenomena — random people on social media making bad arguments and elected officials banning speech — require equal amounts of media coverage is absurd. https://twitter.com/...
Bill Grueskin / @bgrueskin: If an editorial has been “expressed badly,” that's the journalistic equivalent of leaving 5 sponges inside the abdomen of an appendicitis patient. https://twitter.com/...
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: False. America *is* experiencing a free speech crackdown with real consequences for ordinary people. Yes somehow our elite media is still whining about people being mean to them on Twitter. Get a fucking grip you weirdos! https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: It's almost 2 pm EDT and I'm still trying to get my head around the *Editorial Board of The New York Times* not understanding free speech in the United States. Folks, if you ever needed a neon light signpost of why we're here, this is it.
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: Utterly meaningless number. Huge majorities of Americans once thought frivolous lawsuits were out of control and that their children had a 50-50 chance of being kidnapped by a stranger. This is evidence of a moral panic, not that the panic is justified. https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: In a piece about threats to free speech, only 413 words out of over 2,500 are dedicated to actual government officials banning books and silencing educators. The rest of piece is complaining about “harsh criticism,” most of it online. https://twitter.com/...
Peter S. Goodman / @petersgoodman: Apparently I slept through the college class where they taught us that free speech means white people getting to say whatever they want without anyone hurting their feelings by calling them racists
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: The “cancel culture” moral panic gets even dumber with the New York Times writing a 2,500 word essay not just equating “harsh criticism” with actual censorship, but treating it like it's far worse. https://www.salon.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: What the @nytimes editorial board doesn't want to deal with is that “shaming and shunning” — even if it's not fair or justified — is a form of free speech. And just as protected as the opinions that trigger it. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Another defender! @robbysoave from Koch- and Scaife-funded @reason writes: “The New York Times published a terrific editorial on Friday.” https://reason.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@ramshornstudios: @KarenAttiah This is exactly what I read into the NYT editorial today. “The myriad of problems we have today (climate change, racial inequality, wealth disparity, the threat of nuclear war) aren't the biggest problem we face. The biggest problem we face is upending the status quo.”
Instructor Florence Ashley / @butnotthecity: Love to see the New York Times rally around “muh freeze peach” instead of, gosh I don't know, opposing Texas literally ~*kidnapping*~ trans kids. https://twitter.com/...
@dystopiabreaker: yeah 3 sitting us senators just proposed a bill that would define new thoughtcrimes and introduce unprecedented restrictions on free expression that run counter to the last 100 years of 1A jurisprudence lmao https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: There are some valid and even important points in this Editorial — especially on how free speech principles came from the liberal-left, which now mostly rejects them — but it's an odd lecture from a paper that fired two editors for publishing an op-ed by a sitting Senator: https://twitter.com/...
@upulie: This is really offensive. Free speech has consequences. Being criticised is not the same as being denied free speech and it is utterly disgraceful that the NYT thinks this is oppression https://twitter.com/...
@stonekettle: “People are losing the right to speak their minds & voice their opinions in public without fear of being shamed or shunned” Literally the opposite. Those who were once rightly shunned for their wrong, hateful, and insane beliefs NOW have huge platforms https://www.nytimes.com/...
@kimballscott: This thread! The right to free speech does not mean that a person shouldn't be challenged when they say something biased or prejudiced! https://twitter.com/...
Cathy Young / @cathyyoung63: And by “the left criticizing hate,” we mean “destroying someone's career for criticizing riots” or “mounting a vicious hate campaign against a writer who lapsed into ‘white saviorism’ or ‘cultural appropriation’ while writing sympathetically about minority groups” https://twitter.com/...
@theradr: “Siri, what is the difference between experiencing social consequences for ideas others regard as harmful, potentially even to themselves, & the government infringing on the ability to share those opinions?” “Siri, does the Constitution protect citizens from experiencing shame?” https://twitter.com/...
@antheabutler: The thing about the @nytimes editorial is that they got their fee fee's hurt because we talked about them, and rightfully so. Like I said, there are some great op-ed folks, but some of the shit they let go by is awful. Then board doubles down and wonders why we all drag them.
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: The Times Editorial Board is trying to convince us that it is canceled. There is no such things as cancel culture. The Times is not canceled. It is merely complaining about having to share its stage. 16/
Howard Sherman / @hsherman: @jeffjarvis Great thread. This passage struck me. The message of “restraint” translates to - you hear something you don't like, turn the other cheek like a well-behaved citizen. Uh no, free speech can be angry speech as well. Don't treat us like children. https://twitter.com/...
Dave Algoso / @dalgoso: The false equivalency in the NYT editorial is too much... writing 101: the most important thing goes first. readers will weight the sentence about “the left” more heavily, even with the words “more extreme” in the second sentence. and yet NYT repeats this practice throughout. https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: Of course, the grand paradox of this editorial is that The Times is complaining of being silenced in the greatest platform for speech ever yet created, the editorial page of The New York Times. 14/
Julia Ioffe / @juliaioffe: @KarenAttiah 1000%
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: Here are some of the things that might persuade me that cancel culture is a real and pervasive problem: - A clear, falsifiable, and consistent definition of what it means to be canceled. - Some data (I'll start with a few anecdotes) that there are many cancelations. 1/
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: - Some sort of evidence that this is a new problem. - Some sort of evidence that we have fewer rather than more opinions shared in the world. 2/end
Conor Friedersdorf / @conor64: The backlash to centrist liberals defending free speech, even in ways with the minor imperfections of that editorial, is baffling to me, as is the abandonment of the ethos that we should coexist with and tolerate people who disagree with us rather than quit or get them fired. https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: I personally really like AG. He's a lovely guy and smart. But I think he is running a paper adrift and in crisis. And this editorial was like them screaming out: Yeah, mother fuckers, we're quadrupling down on our both-sidist views. 5/
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: @conor64 Yeah. If that was what anyone said that would be weird. Sure glad I said something different! Also: what is so bad about quitting? Why is that such a huge deal? Haven't you quit things? People keep saying me wanting to quit is some big thing. I've quit a lot of jobs.
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: I saw this as, mostly, a Dean Baquet problem. And I was hopeful (though wary) that his replacement will right the ship. But this editorial—approved, I have to assume, by AG Suzlberger, the publisher—suggests the problem is deep in the org. 4/
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Jumping to @nytopinion's defense: None other than @TheFIREorg, which takes Koch money and spreads moral panic. They say the outpouring of negative responses “only lend more legitimacy to their claims” and: https://www.thefire.org/... https://twitter.com/...
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: The core problem with this discourse is that it's being led by people whose jobs subject them to public criticism. It's probably true that national newspaper editors receive more negative feedback than they used to. But that's not a generalized threat to free speech! https://twitter.com/...
Holden Thorp / @hholdenthorp: Like many others, I wonder whether @DougJBalloon wrote this piece. https://twitter.com/...
Cathy Davidson / @cathyndavidson: True! And did you read the survey? Several questions about “did you hold your tongue because you feared harsh criticism for something you said” with no filter for whether or not you said something, uh, hateful, offensive, stupid, untenable, despicable . . . the list goes on https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Kosseff / @jkosseff: I really was on board with this take until the last sentence. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Former UN Special Rapporteur on freedom of opinion and expression ==> https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: I agree with @froomkin - the NYT should retract this insanity, and replace the entire editorial board. An absolute disgrace. https://presswatchers.org/...
ProfB / @antheabutler: This is an important thread and why what I said about @nytimes last week is important. You can see that tweet pinned to the top of my timeline. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: BTW, I think @nytopinion should publish a much wider range of views than it does currently. That includes from the right. But there's a catch: They should also explain why. See, from the archives: https://presswatchers.org/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: I bow to the greatness of @BoingBoing: “This is the shit sandwich everyone else has been eating since time immemorial and now you get to eat it too, you stupid fucking soaks.” https://boingboing.net/... https://twitter.com/...
Aaron Rupar / @atrupar: The First Amendment right to force other people to endure my terrible opinions https://twitter.com/...
Erielle Davidson / @politicalelle: This week, over a hundred Yale Law students shouted down a female conservative speaker at an event where the two speakers AGREED. They called her a “b*tch.” Today isn't your day, Jeff. Take a seat. The illiberal left has overplayed its hand. https://twitter.com/...
Mathew Ingram / @mathewi: Dan is right — there is no established human right that protects you from criticism for your speech, and it is ridiculous for the Times to suggest that there is https://presswatchers.org/...
Greg Sargent / @theplumlinegs: I'm outraged that my right to a lucrative professional journalistic career free of any criticism is being abridged https://twitter.com/...
Garrett M. Graff / @vermontgmg: This is a crazy sentence to have written—especially as a newspaper. This is not and never has been what the tradition of free speech has been about. https://twitter.com/...
Dr. Joanne Freeman / @jbf1755: Freedom of speech does not mean being totally unaccountable for anything you say. I'll say it again. Unaccountability is the crisis of our time. https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: This is the best takedown of the NYT op-ed I've read yet. Shorter: MORE black people feel they are able to say what they want than before. SOME white people feel less free to say what they think about race. So: this is BAD, a CRISIS. https://twitter.com/...
Matt Duss / @mattduss: For example, try searching for “Amnesty International report, apartheid” on the @nytimes website. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: I hate polls as much as I hate from-on-high newspaper editorials for how they both preempt the public conversation, and this one brings me both. How did they expect people to answer this leading question? 3/ https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: If one doubts this is about race, The Times own poll shows it is. Black people feel freer to discuss various topics and that is what bothers The Times but they are blind to it. 6/ https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: Note, too, how The Times tsk-tsks liberals for “shutting down”—loaded choice of verbs there—bigoted, anti-democratic, and untrue (read: Republican) speech. 4/ https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: The editorial's lede is the worst of it. No, we have not lost our right to speak. We are exercising our right to speak around the gatekeepers that included old, white, male, privileged, powerful, closed newspapers and editorial boards and they resent it. 2/ https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: This is appalling. The both-sidesism of The New York Times comes out in full force from its editorial board as it equates the left criticizing hate and the right burning books. Pure moral panic. A 🧵. 1/ https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Laura Clawson / Daily Kos: This free speech take is staggering in its dishonesty
Alex Sherman / CNBC:
A look at the fallout between Bob Chapek and Bob Iger as Disney restructures for a world where streaming dominates and legacy distribution models fade away — Bob Iger, left, and Bob Chapek of Disney — April 12, 2020. That's the day former Disney CEO Bob Iger's relationship …
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@great_katzby: Drama inside the Mouse House during a period of potential transition. Great deep dive. https://twitter.com/...
@ropedropchris: “Chapek, meanwhile, has a harder exterior and at times, according to colleagues, struggles with emotional intelligence” understatement of the goddamn century https://twitter.com/...
Anthony DeRosa / @anthony: The interesting bit here is how powerful Kareem Daniel has become under Chapek's new structure at Disney, arguably making Daniel the most important person in media https://www.cnbc.com/...
Tommy Hawkins / @tommyhawkins: There is a huge story here, that has absolutely little to do with them falling out. It appears Chapek is almost creating another Strategic Planning Division with the P&L set up, and we all know how well that worked out for Eisner. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@dsnynewscast: These excerpts paint a very contentious picture of Bob Iger's relationship with Chapek at the end of 2021. Chapek has annoyed Hollywood, his own employees/creative divisions and now his very knowledgeable predecessor. Not a smart move. Definitely give the article a read!!! https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Howard Mittman / @hsmittman: A great piece of reporting from @sherman4949 that is 100% worth your time. https://twitter.com/...
Francisco Olivera / @francoolivera: “...Chapek's No. 1 priority — setting up Disney for a digital world where streaming dominates and legacy distribution models fade away — is exactly what Iger believed in. That adds an element of sorrow to the men's failed relationship. Their end goals are the same.” https://twitter.com/...
@madnesskingdom: Comtinuing the long tradition of Disney CEOs hating each other https://twitter.com/...
Jennifer Elias / @jenn_elias: Incredibly detailed piece by @sherman4949 on Disney CEO Bob Chapek's falling out with ex-boss Bob Iger. https://www.cnbc.com/...
Nicholas Jackson / @nbj914: New to me in here: A 2018 meeting between Bob Iger and @rkyncl, YouTube's chief business officer, likely influenced a lot of internal structuring decisions as Disney started leaning into streaming. https://twitter.com/...
@orangegrove55: Interesting article. It kind of confirms that Chapek was Iger's choice. Not only was Chapek promoted to CEO, but was also promoted several times on Iger's watch. Interesting how it appears that Iger regrets choosing him now. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Morris / @tsoh_investing: “Ideally, Chapek would like consumers to experience a more unified digital Disney experience... some employees informally speak of this grand challenge of unifying Disney technology and experiences as ‘One Disney.’” https://twitter.com/...
Kai Ryssdal / @kairyssdal: Really good piece - about much more than just the two names in the headlines. h/t @CardiffGarcia Disney CEO Chapek under pressure, at odds with ex-boss Bob Iger https://www.cnbc.com/...
Cardiff Garcia / @cardiffgarcia: On the surface this story is about the strained separation between Iger and Chapek, but mainly it's a terrific piece about organizational change — and how tricky if is for a currently dominant company to keep pace with anticipated economic shifts https://www.cnbc.com/...
Brett Schafer / @ccm_brett: fantastic “people familiar with the matter” quotes in here https://www.cnbc.com/...
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: Fantastic reporting from Alex. An astounding look inside Disney under Chapek, and maybe even more importantly, Kareem Daniel. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Sherman / @sherman4949: Perhaps the thing I found most interesting reporting this was the larger question of the right way to do CEO transitions — especially when the departing CEO is very popular inside and out of the company. https://twitter.com/...
Corinne Reichert / CNET: Pixar Reportedly Restores Same-Sex Kiss to ‘Lightyear’ After Employees Protest
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Disney CEO's initial neutrality toward Florida's Don't Say Gay bill worsened staff and fan resentment towards him amid theme park cost cuts and a falling stock — The Disney chief's plan to stay out of politics backfired in the case of Florida's Parental Rights In Education bill …
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@wsj: Disney had a new policy on public political stances: Don't take them. That blew up in its face. https://www.wsj.com/...
Erich Schwartzel / @erichschwartzel: Last year, Disney called a meeting of Parks employees angry they were being moved from California to Florida, and asked them for possible solutions to their problems. “Fire Bob Chapek” was one answer. Inside Disney's turmoil, w/ @RWhelanWSJ & @JBFlint https://www.wsj.com/...
Ben Fritz / @benfritz: Things aren't going smoothly at Disney for CEO “Bob Paycheck.” https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Rob Price / @robaeprice: Disney CEO Bob Chapek's allies say “his unique perspective ... will allow him to more effectively roll out new ways of doing business.” Apparently this includes forcing 2,000 people to move across the country for corporate tax breaks. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Liz Rappaport / @lizrappaport: Incredible reporting by @RWhelanWSJ @erichschwartzel @JBFlint on Disney CEO Bob Chapek's tanking goodwill among employees, constituents after Florida bill flub. Adds to ire over cost cuts, low share price and poor rapport w/ creators. https://www.wsj.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: Disney CEO Bob Chapek and his team would like to move on from Florida but company isn't letting them. Conflict over Florida bill adds to discontent over cost cuts and a falling share price. W/@RWhelanWSJ and @erichschwartzel https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
Jane Harper / Virginian-Pilot:
Sierra Jenkins, a 25-year-old reporter for The Virginian-Pilot, was among those killed in the crossfire during a shooting in downtown Norfolk on Saturday — Saturday would have been Sierra Jenkins' turn to cover the breaking news shift for The Virginian-Pilot.
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Jane Harper / @janeharpervp: I've covered more murders than I can count during my reporting career but today's will always stand out. Among the victims was my sweet colleague Sierra Jenkins. I was asked to fill in for her today when editors couldn't reach her. We found later why. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Dorothy Tucker / @dorothy4nabj: The entire @NABJ family is wrapping our arms around the family, friends and colleagues of @virginianpilot reporter, Sierra Jenkins. This a tragic loss of a beautiful, young, intrepid reporter. We are in close contact with @HRBMP_org for support. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Liz Szabo / @lizszabo: Journalists cover gun violence everyday, and tell the stories of innocent people who get caught in the crossfire. Today, one of own is among the victims. I'm so sorry my friend Jane had to write about the death of her colleague. https://twitter.com/...
Gillian Brockell / Washington Post: Young journalist among 2 killed in Norfolk shooting
Patrick Reilly / New York Post: Virginian-Pilot journalist among two killed in shooting outside Norfolk bar
Tom Mallory / @tom_mallory: “'She wasn't much of a going-out kind of person at all,' (the 25-year-old shooting victim's father) said. But her best friend was in town and the two decided to go out together.” https://www.pilotonline.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Rep. Donald McEachin / @repmceachin: My prayers & condolences are with the families of Sierra Jenkins & the other victims of last night's shooting in downtown Norfolk. These tragic acts of gun violence must end. https://twitter.com/...
Joshua Eaton / @joshua_eaton: “Jenkins' father ... described his daughter as a sweet, caring and hard-working young woman who loved being a journalist. She just turned 25 on March 13 and was the oldest of three siblings.” How stupid and senseless and awful. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
L. Louise Lucas / @senlouiselucas: Heartbroken at this news. https://twitter.com/...
Rana Cash / @rana_cash: This is such terrible news. Sierra Jenkins, a reporter at the Virginian-Pilot and Georgia State University graduate, is the victim of a fatal shooting. @NABJ https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
@virginianpilot: We're waking up today with a hole in our hearts. A piece missing. We miss you, Sierra. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Lori Higgins / @loriahiggins: This is heartbreaking. I met Sierra a few wks ago in D.C. for the @EdWriters new to the beat program. I was her mentor and after one meeting with her, I walked away feeling rejuvenated. She was so enthusiastic and had such a drive for journalism and this beat I love. Devastating. https://twitter.com/...
Pilar Arias / Fox News: Virginia reporter discovered dead in shooting when paper tries to assign her the story
Steve Gunn / @sgunn: What an absolute tragedy. https://twitter.com/...
John Johnson / Newser: Young Reporter Fatally Shot in Bar Altercation
Amy Kuperinsky / @amykup: “When an editor learned early Saturday that several people had been shot in downtown Norfolk, he called Jenkins repeatedly to ask her to cover it. But she couldn't be reached.” Heartbreaking. Virginian-Pilot reporter Sierra Jenkins, 25, dead after fatal shooting. https://twitter.com/...
Daniel Hernandez / @longdrivesouth: Absolutely wrecked by this: “Jenkins was scheduled to work a shift on the day she died. When editors were unable to reach her to have her to cover the shooting, they asked another reporter to fill in for her. A short time later, they learned Jenkins was among those killed.” rip https://twitter.com/...
Michel Martin / @nprmichel: What's happening in Ukraine is horrible. So is what's happening in our streets: Virginian-Pilot reporter among those killed in Granby Street shooting in downtown Norfolk https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Maddy Will / @madeline_will: Absolutely heartbreaking. Thinking of the @virginianpilot newsroom and everyone else who knew and loved Sierra. https://twitter.com/...
Kristen Zeis / @k_zeis: Struggling to find words. Sierra was a wonderful colleague and such a talented journalist. https://twitter.com/...
Stephen Stirling / @sstirling: The lede on this story is devastating. RIP. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
NABJ Students / @nabjstudents: @NABJSTUDENTS would like to send our condolences and prayers to the family of The Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk reporter Sierra Jenkins. We join the wide community who loved and appreciated Sierra in mourning this tremendous loss. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Emily Richmond / @ewaemily: Sierra had a special light, and we were proud to have her in this year's @edwriters New to the Beat corps. We send our deepest condolences to her @virginianpilot colleagues, and her family and friends, on this tragic, senseless, unfathomable loss. May her memory be a blessing. https://twitter.com/...
Josh Reyes / @jdauzreyes: Sierra would get so excited talking about stories she was working on, and that was reflected in her reporting. She was kind and considerate and talented. This is just so terrible https://twitter.com/...
Derek Moore / @deadlinederek: It's hard to fathom not being able to reach a reporter for her breaking news shift because she was a victim in the shooting you wanted her to cover. So very tragic. https://twitter.com/...
@nabj: 🕯We are saddened to learn of the passing of Virginian-Pilot & Daily Press reporter Sierra Jenkins. Sierra was among the victims of an overnight shooting in Norfolk. She was a talented reporter with a bright future ahead of her. We send condolences to her family and colleagues. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@kenyathehunter: Sierra and I just talked about her dreams. She had so many dreams of being the best journalist she could be. I'm so heartbroken over this. Love you @SierraJenk. Forever and ever. https://twitter.com/...
Sean Kennedy / @seandkennedy: I called Sierra's phone early this morning because we heard about an overnight shooting. Sierra was filling in on a weekend breaking news shift. I left a message. I may have apologized for possibly waking her up. Jane, thank you for doing such tremendous work today. https://twitter.com/...
Sean Kennedy / @seandkennedy: I am beyond devastated. Sierra was an amazing reporter with her whole career ahead of her. She just moved into a new apartment — her first solo apartment. She had just been to a professional conference. This is not fair. https://twitter.com/...
@virginianpilot: We are devastated to report that Virginian-Pilot and Daily Press reporter Sierra Jenkins was among the victims of an overnight shooting in downtown Norfolk. She was 24. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Laura Studley / CNN: Virginian-Pilot reporter and former CNN news assistant Sierra Jenkins killed in shooting
Katherine Huggins / Mediaite: 25-Year-Old Reporter Among 2 Killed in Shooting Outside Virginia Restaurant, 3 Others Injured
WTKR-TV: 2 people, including Virginian-Pilot reporter, killed in quintuple shooting in Downtown Norfolk
Tereza Shkurtaj / The Sun: Who was Sierra Jenkins and what was her cause of death?
Elahe Izadi / Washington Post:
How two Ukrainian AP journalists are documenting the war's devastation while managing sporadic contact with editors and dealing with Russian government smears — If it were not for two Associated Press journalists in the besieged city of Mariupol, the world might not have learned …
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@photospice: Incredible visual reporting from these two #Ukrainian photojournalists @AssociatedPress “How two journalists managed to share the horror stories of Mariupol with the world” #ukraine #Photojournalism https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Miriam Elder / @miriamelder: Proud to highlight the work of @EMaloletka + @mstyslav9, who have told the world about Mariupol. As @JuliePace says, “Covering this is personal for them, and they have felt a real responsibility to make sure that the world is seeing what's happening.” https://www.vanityfair.com/...
Miriam Elder / @miriamelder: “Their photographs are not only a record of the utter destruction, but a direct rebuttal to the Kremlin's propaganda,” writes @charlottetklein https://www.vanityfair.com/...
Dan Atkinson / WHDH-TV: ‘No city anymore’: Mariupol survivors take train to safety
Andrew McCormick / Columbia Journalism Review:
Eight journalists, including the AP's Kathy Gannon and filmmaker Sebastian Junger, reflect on covering the war in Afghanistan and lessons learned — An oral history with eight journalists who covered the war in Afghanistan over two decades — Last August, amid the Islamic Republic …
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Rafia Zakaria / @rafiazakaria: This 👇🏽 thread by one of the most talented and bravest female journalists I have ever known. Thank you @AzmatZahra for your work and for this retrospective https://twitter.com/...
Patricia Gossman / @pagossman: “And you might think, 'Okay, so we didn't live up to all the grand promises we made to Afghans, but hey, war's tough.' Guess what, though: there are consequences.” @AzmatZahra https://www.cjr.org/...
Patricia Gossman / @pagossman: “I think we tend to better understand the stories and the voices of people who are similar to us...But really these were people firmly on one side of a civil war.” @mattaikins https://www.cjr.org/... via @cjr
Azmat Khan / @azmatzahra: “The coverage was making everybody but the Taliban a good guy, when the reality was there were a lot of bad guys. People were being made heroes who had done horrible things. And I thought, ‘How much of history as we know it is like this?’” @Kathygannon https://www.cjr.org/...
Joe Germuska / @joegermuska: This is really good—oral history of 8 correspondents who covered the war in Afghanistan https://twitter.com/...
Priyanka Boghani / @priyankaboghani: “It's likely that Western media orgs will reduce their coverage & staffing in Afghanistan. That's what happens when our wars end. But despite the fact that our military presence has ended ... our responsibility for what happened has not ... ” - @mattaikins https://www.cjr.org/...
Kathy Gannon / @kathygannon: Important look at the reporting of America's longest war. I am a huge fan of many in this work by @AndrewMcCormck https://twitter.com/...
Ariana Pekary / @arianapekary: “I'd send stories to headquarters, and they wouldn't air them, especially stories about the Afghan people. One friend...wrote 6 stories straight that her outlet didn't print, but then suddenly they'd run an Afghanistan story written from Washington.” https://www.cjr.org/... @cjr
Patricia Gossman / @pagossman: “Looking back, I wish we'd pressed the Pentagon and military commanders much, much harder. You know, “You've been here now six years, nine years, twelve years. How long will this go on? What are your metrics for success?” https://www.cjr.org/... via @cjr
Patricia Gossman / @pagossman: “We should question our certainties—what we thought we knew about this war and its protagonists...and be skeptical about our ability to really know what's happening... there's been a rush to confirm what we already thought we knew.” @mattaikins https://www.cjr.org/...
Heather Barr / @heatherbarr1: “This kind of corruption happened all the time, and the US was totally aware. It was so common to hear things like, “Yeah, he's a warlord, but he's our warlord."" https://www.cjr.org/...
Maija Liuhto / @maijaliuhto: So relieved this was written. Give it a read and reflect. The pieces by @Kathygannon and @mattaikins especially resonated with me. These are the things I haven't been able to stop thinking about since August. https://www.cjr.org/...
Ruth Michaelson / @msrmichaelson: This piece is so important, from @CJR: “How many so-called experts in DC have you seen talking about Afghanistan night after night on TV? Some of these people have literally never been to Afghanistan.” https://www.cjr.org/...
Patricia Gossman / @pagossman: “Commentators framed the events as a sudden and profound indictment of US foreign policy—as though a two-decade war wasn't indictment enough.” https://www.cjr.org/... via @cjr
Sayed I. Afzali / @siafzali: One of those bad guys was “General” Raziq who was made a “hero” but in reality he was a brutal murderer and a notorious drug lord. I can count a few of these in every region of #Afghanistan https://twitter.com/...
Ted Johnson / Deadline:
US federal judge dismisses Project Veritas' defamation lawsuit against CNN, says an on-air statement about Veritas did not rise to level of an actionable claim — UPDATED, with comment from Project Veritas: A federal judge has tossed out a defamation lawsuit filed by Project Veritas against CNN …
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Gabriel Malor / @gabrielmalor: Fed. judge has dismissed Project Veritas' defamation suit against CNN on the ground that, under New York law, the claim isn't actionable where PV's reputation would have been maligned whether CNN had used PV's preferred formulation rather than CNN's. https://deadline.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Michael McDonald / @electproject: Sad Trombone https://twitter.com/...
Howard Prince / @howodd69: Judge flips the bird at James O'Keefe by dismissing Project Veritas' (a proven oxymoron) lawsuit against CNN. https://deadline.com/...
Deadline Hollywood / @deadline: U.S. District Judge Steve C. Jones wrote that “Project Veritas's allegations and arguments do not plausibly suggest that the truth (as pled in the Complaint) would have a different effect on the mind of the average reader in terms of the reputational harm” https://deadline.com/...
Eduardo Razo / Barrett Media: Judge Tosses Out Project Veritas' Lawsuit Against CNN
Brian Steinberg / Variety:
Media-measurement giant Nielsen says it has turned down a bid by a PE consortium to buy it, following reports of a potential deal that caused its stock to soar — Nielsen Holdings PLC has turned down a bid by a private-equity consortium to buy the media-measurement giant …
CNN:
The White House is “appalled” over an Axios article that it believes was based on a fabricated letter purportedly written by Ukraine's top nat sec official — The White House spent much of Friday frustrated by an Axios report that it believes was based on a fabricated letter purportedly written …
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@oliverdarcy, @oliverdarcy, @nastyoldwomyn, @jason_kint, @xlprofessor, @dangillmor, @thecorollary, @robinwigg, @brianstelter, @omanreagan, @vandalay_inc, @yeswecan4us, @aaschapiro and @froomkin
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Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: The White House is “appalled” at Axios over an article the outlet published. That's the lede of this edition of the @ReliableSources newsletter: https://e.newsletters.cnn.com/ ...
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: “We were appalled that Axios apparently did not have time to verify with Ukrainian officials whether or not this letter was a fake...And then we were even more appalled it stayed up all day despite our repeated asks to take the story down when became obvious the letter was a fake”
@nastyoldwomyn: Some of @axios's reporters are beyond irresponsible. Always take @axios reports with a grain of salt. https://twitter.com/...
Jason Kint / @jason_kint: What I don't get here is why Axios and their reporter haven't posted original tweets with correction or at least a clarification. Rule #1 should be correcting the record with the same tools/methods/amplification used for the original reporting. https://twitter.com/...
@xlprofessor: @oliverdarcy @ReliableSources Maybe “White House ‘appalled’” isn't the proper lede of this story Maybe the proper lede is that Axios is publishing what is most likely #RussianPropaganda despite everyone telling them what they have is false https://twitter.com/...
Dan Gillmor / @dangillmor: Looks like Axios article was based on bogus document; that the White House tried to warn them off ahead of time; and that the article remained up anyway. https://twitter.com/...
@thecorollary: This tweet sells the story as the WH being outraged when it's about Axios publishing a false story and waiting 24 hrs to correct it while relying on Trump admin people quotes to give it legs. https://twitter.com/...
Robin Wigglesworth / @robinwigg: This is not a great look for Axios, but could it have been headed off by a straight ON the record denial initially from the White House? Nothing more frustrating and potentially problematic than an oblique off the record denial. https://twitter.com/...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: “There's a lot of disinformation and misinformation being pushed around about Ukraine right now. This is a moment where taking the extra time to verify reporting is even more essential than usual.” -@emilyhorne46 https://e.newsletters.cnn.com/ ...
Michael / @omanreagan: At least half of what I see people tweeting about Ukraine is well-meaning but made up. It doesn't surprise me that this tendency has reached journalists, many of whom are also sharing this made up feel-good stuff. https://twitter.com/...
@vandalay_inc: Last week Axios printed a story about Israel and Ukraine about Negotiations, that proved to be false, a week before that someone sent a fake screenshot of El Al's webpage to Ukraine's FM. There's obviously some misinformation from Russia that's getting published. https://twitter.com/...
@yeswecan4us: @oliverdarcy ... “We were appalled that Axios apparently did not have time to verify with Ukrainian officials whether or not this letter was a fake, but made sure to reach out to a former #Trump official with no knowledge of the situation for a ‘gotcha’ quote.” https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/ ...
Avi Asher-Schapiro / @aaschapiro: “Axios changed the headline — which initially read “Scoop: Ukraine sought long-term resistance funding” — to “Ukraine's ambassador disputes letter asking U.S. for resistance support.” https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/ ...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: This looks very bad for @axios https://twitter.com/...
Josef Adalian / Vulture:
Interview with Mike Moon, who oversees Netflix's work in animation aimed at adult viewers, on competition, talent, and global reach as the genre booms — Peak TV has been very, very good for adult animation. Once the domain of Fox and a handful of cable networks, new non-anime cartoons …
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Abdullah Al-Ghamdi / ScreenRant: Why The Baby-Sitters Club Was Cancelled At Netflix, According To Creator
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Kathryn VanArendonk / Vulture:
Q&A with Baby-sitters Club's creator on Netflix canceling the show, the opacity of Netflix metrics, how global appeal influences cancelations, and more
Q&A with Baby-sitters Club's creator on Netflix canceling the show, the opacity of Netflix metrics, how global appeal influences cancelations, and more
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@soopajane, @anacardiorosso, @anitafelicelli, @texasinafrica, @alisonwillmore, @vividfoundry, @heatherbrooker, So Relatable, @overstuffdmodel, @reinh, @terri_rupar, @_zeets, SlashFilm, @megbonneywriter, @konshideout, @adamconover, @marawilson, @cbellantoni, @farrahsafiakhan, @exfatalist, @bigmeaninternet, @aysrick, @elainelow, @hhavrilesky, @mjschulman, @ashleyalese, @scobie, @juliekosin, @redlianak, The Daily Beast, @mikehawthorne, @supriyadwivedi, @rob_sheridan, @kateyrich, @ilanacubana, @sarahmaclean, @klcpegher, @imleor, @doomquasar, @runwithskizzers, @darren_mooney, Too Much TV Newsletter, We Have Notes … and ScreenRant
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Jane Patton / @soopajane: Good grief I wish they hadn't canceled this show. I'm 35, and absolutely LOVED it, and not just for nostalgia. It was actually delightful and almost therapeutic for me. https://twitter.com/...
Ross / @anacardiorosso: This interview is dead on. Dissappointing decision by @netflix https://twitter.com/...
Anita Felicelli / @anitafelicelli: my kid will be sad. good insights on effect of algorithms. “easy time for girls to define themselves solely by how they're seen by other people +then you don't get your sense of self back until you're 35. What if you weren't missing those 20 years?” https://www.vulture.com/...
Laura Seay / @texasinafrica: This is sad. It was so much fun to see the stories I remember come to life. https://www.vulture.com/...
Alison Willmore / @alisonwillmore: The Netflix details in this excellent interview from @kvanaren are so illuminating and depressing https://www.vulture.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Tanya Kan / @vividfoundry: This is really relatable re: development for @SolaceStateGame, even of older youth protag Chloe (she/her, 22). I researched about girls in the Americas doing activism and many are defining their own sociocultural concerns, but adults are very uncomfortable with their stories. https://twitter.com/...
Heather Brooker / @heatherbrooker: As a mom of a tween I can tell you this is such an important conversation to have! Thank you @RachelShukert ❤️ https://twitter.com/...
Chrissy Hennessey / So Relatable: Can You Relate: The balancing act
@overstuffdmodel: Woooow. This conversation has prompted so much thought for me. 10 to 18 year old girls really don't have any content geared toward them. https://twitter.com/...
Terri Rupar / @terri_rupar: “I think female audiences are trained to not take their own stories as seriously. Stuff men were obsessed with when they were 9 is treated like Hamlet. How many Spider-Man movies are there? How many Star Wars?” https://www.vulture.com/...
@_zeets: “But at Netflix, it's more about if your show works on the platform than if the platform is working for your show. They want people to watch it a certain way, and they want shows that people will watch that way...” https://www.vulture.com/...
Valerie Ettenhofer / SlashFilm: Baby-Sitters Club Creator Laments Netflix Cancelation As A Loss For Female Audiences
Meg Bonney / @megbonneywriter: I was so happy that my daughters had a show like this for exactly the age they are. Middle grade girl stories are so important, not just for them, but for grown women who never got to see this part of their lives represented onscreen like this. I hope it goes somewhere else. https://twitter.com/...
@konshideout: a very well-spoken interview! has given me more insight on netflix's game and content for young girls. definitely recommend taking a read https://twitter.com/...
Adam Conover / @adamconover: Terrific, candid interview with @rachelshukert about the new pressures that are put on television shows in the age of algorithmically-determined programming: https://www.vulture.com/...
@marawilson: SO TRUE. Thank you, @RachelShukert. #BringBackTheBSC https://www.vulture.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Christina Bellantoni / @cbellantoni: This is infuriating. Not only was the series quite good, it was thoughtfully adapted to the modern era and showcased strong role models. https://www.vulture.com/...
Farrah Khan / @farrahsafiakhan: I'm still devastated by the cancellation of #babysittersclub. Girls deserve shows that depict their lives with joy and care. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@exfatalist: I only just survived those 20 years. This is actually really heartbreaking. https://twitter.com/...
Malcolm Harris / @bigmeaninternet: “A lot of times, Netflix things come out and for whatever reason, if the algorithm doesn't put it in front of you, no one knows it's on” https://www.vulture.com/...
AllYourScreens Rick Ellis / @aysrick: @mediagazer Speaking of that Baby-Sitters Club piece, I just posted something which is bit of a response to the interview https://allyourscreens.com/...
Elaine Low / @elainelow: Fascinating glimpse into Netflix's decision-making, from the BSC creator: “They want people to watch it a certain way, and they want shows that people will watch that way — not shows that people want to watch in their own way.” $NFLX https://www.vulture.com/...
Heather Havrilesky / @hhavrilesky: Interesting thoughts on Netflix's strategy here https://www.vulture.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Michael Schulman / @mjschulman: I am incredibly biased since @RachelShukert is one of my favorite human friends, but this interview gives so much insight into what happens when algorithms control culture, how Netflix has changed, and the dearth of representation for tween girls. https://www.vulture.com/...
Ashley Alese Edwards / @ashleyalese: this reminds me of taina getting canceled bc it didn't appeal to boys even though it was a massive hit & a great show for young girls. https://twitter.com/...
Omid Scobie / @scobie: Interesting insight into how, and why, your favourite @Netflix shows often get canceled (and how that affects other content disproportionately). With big pressure to create global hits outside of North America, it's become increasingly difficult to succeed on the platform. https://twitter.com/...
Julie Kosin / @juliekosin: struck/nauseated by the parallels between Rachel Shukert trying to keep BSC on the air in 2022 (left) and Melanie Mayron's decision to make the movie in '96 https://www.vulture.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Liana Kerzner / @redlianak: I'm discovering that it's not just girls at this age who get defined by how other people see them, and don't get that back until much later in life. Let's do better by teens. The world will be better off. https://twitter.com/...
Kevin Fallon / The Daily Beast: Netflix's ‘Is It Cake?’ Is a Masterpiece of Stupidity (And I Love It)
Mike Hawthorne / @mikehawthorne: Having raised 2 girls I feel this at my core. https://twitter.com/...
Supriya Dwivedi / @supriyadwivedi: “Girls are expected to go straight from Doc McStuffins to Euphoria.” https://twitter.com/...
Rob Sheridan / @rob_sheridan: Algorithms are the enemy of art. Cherish and support good human curation wherever you can (publishers/labels/studios/channels/ etc that put out and stand behind work they believe in), because the more content has to serve the algorithm, the less risks and pure expression we get. https://twitter.com/...
@kateyrich: Tempted to screenshot every line in this wonderful interview but this part— followed by the idea of a Super Special episode!— really did me in https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@ilanacubana: when i was pitching #diaryofafuturepresident people tried to get me to age elena up. a 12y/o girl lead felt unsellable - there's such a discomfort around celebrating that period of girlhood. i loved #babysittersclub and i'm sad the very few shows we get have such short lives. https://twitter.com/...
Sarah Maclean / @sarahmaclean: I'm so disappointed that @Netflix cancelled The Baby-Sitters Club, which my 8yo adored, delivering the second in a 1-2 punch (she also flipped for Julie & the Phantoms). I loved that she found stories she could relate to — tough for that pre-teen age group! https://twitter.com/...
Kelcie Pegher / @klcpegher: “Our audience compared to HBO shows that are seen as massive hits, Succession-like juggernauts — we do way bigger numbers.” 👀👀👀👀 https://twitter.com/...
Leor Galil / @imleor: I am so curious why the company won't share this kind of data with its workers https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Simone de Rochefort / @doomquasar: I'm gonna miss The Babysitter's Club :( https://twitter.com/...
Preeti Chhibber / @runwithskizzers: This whole piece is fascinating (and p depressing). https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Darren Mooney / @darren_mooney: This is a really good interview with @RachelShukert on how arbitrary Netflix's cancellation/renewal process can be. It's particularly striking a streaming service doesn't want a show that it takes viewers longer to complete, and so subscribing longer. https://www.vulture.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Abby Gardner / We Have Notes with Abby Gardner: Time Is Short and the Road Is Long
Richard J. Tofel / Second Rough Draft:
Finding philanthropic support for media in small, poorer communities is a problem without an easy answer but such news deserts shouldn't be ignored — It threatens to further deepen the fissures between us. — Welcome to Second Rough Draft, a newsletter about journalism in our time …
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@evanasmith, @melissamdaniels, @johnarnoldfndtn, @annala7680, @donnerkay and @bobmoorenews
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Evan Smith / @evanasmith: Must-read @dicktofel on news deserts: “We need to be honest in acknowledging that, even as nonprofit initiatives are expanding at an accelerating pace, a great deal more liquidity will be required before the tide rises high enough everywhere” https://dicktofel.substack.com/ ...
Melissa Daniels / @melissamdaniels: Important observations here — and also why I am SUPER stoked to be doing community listening and surveys with a focus on rural communities in my last grad semester at @Cronkite_ASU. If news is truly a public service, we must prioritize equity for all communities. Full stop. https://twitter.com/...
John Arnold / @johnarnoldfndtn: '@dicktofel points out that the nonprofit donor/member model of journalism shows signs of promise in large markets like Houston, Baltimore, and Chicago. But smaller, less wealthy markets, where need is greatest, risk being overlooked. https://dicktofel.substack.com/ ...
Anna Nirmala / @annala7680: This is so important to keep in mind. I choose to receive it as a mandate. Part of the work with organizations like @cpipr @MSTODAYnews and @elpasomatters involves trying to crack the nut on diaspora and expat revenue. Is there something there? God I hope so. https://twitter.com/...
Donna Ladd / @donnerkay: It's good to see thought about “news deserts,” but @dicktofel needs to also be aware of a rapidly growing nonprofit newsroom in Mississippi *not* founded by white men. @kimberlydgriffi and I have a lot to add to news-desert conversation. https://dicktofel.substack.com/ ...
Benedict Evans:
As Amazon's ad revenue passes YouTube's and US pay TV subscriptions drop, ad budgets will shift further to targetable spots and other customer-acquisition tools — About five years ago, a revenue line buried in the back of Amazon's accounts started to get quite big.
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@hkanji, @jeffjarvis, @tomroach, @rahulwelde, @durgaraghunath, @nairsameer, @benedictevans, @tcarmody, Protocol and Next TV
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Hussein Kanji / @hkanji: Amazon's ad business is bigger than YouTube and more profitable than AWS. Shein is the biggest fast-fashion retailer in the US, with no stores. https://www.ben-evans.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: Another brilliant @benedictevans analysis, this of the shrinking advertising market and the new owners of it. Media lose and lose again. https://twitter.com/...
Tom Roach / @tomroach: A simple chart suggesting a thousand stories about the last 70yrs in the ad business, from the always outstanding @benedictevans in https://www.ben-evans.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Rahul Welde / @rahulwelde: Top article that looks at the money flowing through advertising. Who is winning and why, where are budgets moving to and where will future growth come from. Must read. @benedictevans aces it in simple narration and charts. https://www.ben-evans.com/...
@durgaraghunath: At the end of 2021 @amazon started splitting out their ad revenue into a sep line and that number is at $31B. This is as large as the Google Display business, YouTube or the entire global newspaper industry ad revenue, writes @benedictevans https://www.ben-evans.com/...
Sameer Nair / @nairsameer: “...ask where all these ad budgets are coming from, and, more importantly, where the growth will come from next. The obvious answer is television: print is mostly already gone, but ‘TV’ viewing is now finally unlocking...” @skswamy https://www.ben-evans.com/...
Benedict Evans / @benedictevans: Amazon's ad business is bigger than YouTube and more profitable than AWS. Shein is the biggest fast-fashion retailer in the US, with no stores. US pay TV subscribers have fallen by a third. Where do ad budgets go, where does rent go, and how many brands will there be?