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Emily McCormick / Yahoo Finance:
Netflix reports losing 200K net subscribers in Q1, vs. an estimated 2.5M net additions, and $7.87B revenue, vs. $7.95B est.; Netflix stock drops 35%+ — Netflix (NFLX) reported an unexpected decline in first-quarter net subscribers as the company navigated an exit from Russia and an increasingly saturated North American market.
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Netflix Investor Relations: Fellow shareholders, — Our revenue growth has slowed considerably as our results and forecast below show.
Greg Isenberg / @gregisenberg: People are missing a main point on why Netflix stock is down 30% today wiping $55b of value It isn't just extra competition of Disney, HBO or Peacock...that's just an excuse The real reason: TikTok is increasingly taking more and more of people's entertainment time
Peter Kafka / Vox: Why Netflix is suddenly losing subscribers
Will Oremus / @willoremus: https://twitter.com/...
Josh Dickey / The Wrap: Elon Musk Blames ‘Woke Mind Virus’ for Netflix Stock Woes: It's ‘Unwatchable’
Oliver Staley / Observer: Netflix is No Longer Chill About Password Sharing
Tiffany Hsu / @tiffkhsu: Ads are coming to Netflix, after years of resistance. And amid subscription fatigue and high inflation, it's far from the only streaming service to embrace commercials in recent months. w/ @koblin https://www.nytimes.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: EXTRA! EXTRA! Reed all about it (see what I did there?). Hastings says Netflix considering launching cheaper ad-supported tier of the platform. https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
Shira Ovide / @shiraovide: Netflix has lost about $180 billion in market cap since the end of 2021, which is ...objectively a lot of money. (It's four Elon Musk offers for Twitter of market value.)
Marco Arment / @marcoarment: Agreed. Netflix's refusal to participate in Siri/TV.app was a power move, made when they were in a position of power. Now, they have strong competition. They're at greatest risk of being forgotten... until another price hike prompts people to consider canceling. https://twitter.com/...
Mike Shields / @digitalshields: How much of Netflix losing subs driven by inflation? I agree shows have been meh and there's lots more completion...but I wonder if many are taking stock of spending and are all of a sudden like “when did Netflix become 16 bucks?”
@fmanjoo: So lemme get this straight: Netflix added 500k new subs last month. Netflix lost 700k subs by pulling out of Russia. So, sure, a 200k decline, but not the end of the world. They added a half million subs!
Paul Tassi / Forbes: Netflix Is Losing Subscribers Because Its Competition Is Cheaper With Better Shows
Marco Arment / @marcoarment: I'm with @gruber on Netflix's woes: https://daringfireball.net/... Netflix used to be all we watched. Now, almost every good new show is somewhere else, and Netflix has become an endless sea of mediocre, time-wasting filler. Fix the content, and the subscribers will follow.
Aaron Rupar / @atrupar: that or there are a zillion streaming services and it's finally catching up to Netflix. But woke mind virus. Sure. https://twitter.com/...
Jose Montes de Oca / Newslit Daily: 📺 Netflix Loses 200,000 Customers, Its First Decline in a Decade
Laura Dobberstein / The Register: Netflix to crack down on account sharing with ad-laden cheaper options
Lucas Shaw / @lucas_shaw: There is a very hard solution for Netflix's problem: make better shows. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Joseph Cotterill / @jsphctrl: I wonder when Netflix (now losing subs for the first time in a decade) will start breaking out Africa subs to reassure its shareholders that it's growing somewhere. (Assuming there is healthy Africa growth.) https://s22.q4cdn.com/...
@technology: Netflix shares are on course to lose about $40 billion in value Wednesday after the streaming giant reported its first customer decline in more than a decade https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Alyson Shontell / @ajs: Netflix thought it was bleeding users because of covid receding. Now it has identified 4 different, uncontrollable issues that could shed it millions of users in the coming months. https://fortune.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Morash / @alexmorash: Goodbye Netflix. I won't pay for a streaming service that includes ads, full stop. I'd rather watch nothing at all. https://twitter.com/...
Sam Ro / @samro: Netflix: “In the near term though, we're not growing revenue as fast as we'd like.” https://s22.q4cdn.com/...
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: Netflix opens down -30%. Still dropping. Tesla reports earnings tonight. Elon's figuring out financing for Twitter. It's April 20th (Or, 420) In the wise words of Matt Levine, we're all just waiting for the next can of snakes to be opened by whoever's unlucky enough to hold it.
@hkeskiva: Netflix $NFLX shareholder letter didn't try to bury the news. First words: “Our revenue growth has slowed considerably” Shareholder letter: https://s22.q4cdn.com/...
Henry Blodget / @hblodget: A Netflix buyer would have to be Apple, Amazon, Google, or another monster tech company. No media companies can afford it, even with the stock down 60% from the peak. https://twitter.com/...
Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / @ashkan: 3/ @YouTube has emerged as viable brand safe AVOD offering, but once launched, @netflix will win over many markets. Long-term, total pie size grows much more, faster.
M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler: You can't spell NETFLIX without NFT — just sayin... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Kantrowitz / @kantrowitz: I had to upgrade my account last month when I was watching on a trip while someone was watching at my house. We both had Netflix subs but they were on the living room TV. Netflix counts that as two households, but should it? https://twitter.com/...
Fred Hickey / @htsfhickey: Netflix - what a disaster. NFLX already cut in 1/2 from just 5 months ago ($701 to 349), yet 61% of analysts still had “Strong Buy” or “Buy” ratings with an avg. target price of $504. After hrs. down another 25% to $262. Analysts loathe to downgrade faves https://finance.yahoo.com/...
Larry Dignan / @ldignan: Netflix $NFLX loses 200K net subs in Q1 and projects a loss of 2 million subs in Q2. Inflation means people cutting budget. Netflix's partial solution to hold operating margins: “more effective monetization of multi-household sharing.” https://s22.q4cdn.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Jordan Parker Erb / Insider: 10 Things in Tech: Netflix is bleeding subscribers
Lucas Shaw / @lucas_shaw: Netflix shares open down 30%. It's now at its lowest point since December 2017. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / @ashkan: 1/ Back of envelope #'s If @netflix recently raised prices by $2/mo, across 222M subs that's $444M + revs/MONTH. 200K cancelled at $12/mo x 12 mos = $30M in revenue/YEAR loss. Even est 2M future cancellations = $300M in ANNUAL losses. Yet stock down 25% https://www.mediagazer.com/...
Subrat Patnaik / Bloomberg: Netflix Shares Plunge 30% After Massive Subscriber Loss
@wholemarsblog: Netflix Explores a Version With Ads as Subscriber Base Shrinks So one bad quarter and you throw away all your principles, everything that differentiated your product? $NFLX https://www.wsj.com/...
Wendy Lee / @thewendylee: “I know it's disappointing for investors,” Netflix Co-CEO Reed Hastings said."Internally we're really geared up and this is like our moment to shine...we're super focused on achieving those objectives and getting back into our investors' good graces."https://www.latimes.com/ ...
Chris Geidner / @chrisgeidner: Ah, yes, adding commercials will definitely help flip their subscription numbers! https://twitter.com/...
Peter Kafka / @pkafka: Worst quarter since Qwikster. The difference: In 2011, Netflix screwed up. This time the problem isn't Netflix - it's the competition. https://twitter.com/...
Peter Kafka / @pkafka: Longtime Netflix bull @RichLightShed: “Netflix felt vulnerable yesterday in a way that it never has before.”
Jess A. M. / @jam_etc: 1. they don't fund cool interesting unique things like they used to 2. when they do they never advertise it 3. when it fails due to this, they never renew it for any more seasons the netflix dream is kinda dying a little bit, man! where's all the amazing netflix originals!? https://twitter.com/...
Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / @ashkan: 2/ Now long term, it will tap into AVOD dollars. More marketers will shift TV dollars to web. This is overall a good sign as NFLX will need ad-based offering for global domination.
Matt Swider / The Shortcut: Netflix lost 200,000 subscribers: goodbye password sharing, hello cheaper ad tier
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: Netflix predicted it would add 2.5M subscribers in Q1 but actually lost 200,000 instead. This was a huge miss but even bigger is that they expect to lose another 2M in Q2. 🤯 https://variety.com/...
Armando Iannucci / @aiannucci: Government wants to privatise @Channel4 so it can be more like Netflix. What can possibly go wrong? https://twitter.com/...
Ari Levy / @levynews: $NFLX has lost 62% of its value in 5 months, based on after hours trading. At its lowest since Oct. 2019. https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Peter Kafka / @pkafka: Ad plan feels like “a very recent decision and a last minute throw-in to these earnings, and that makes me feel like things are even worse than they appear” says @benthompson https://stratechery.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Tiffany Hsu / @tiffkhsu: Ads are getting a warmer reception on streaming services, execs tell @koblin and me: “It's basically game on.” “Ultimately, fantastic news for the U.S. consumer.” “Free, ad-driven TV isn't sitting at the kids' table anymore.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler: Two predictions: 1) Netflix will figure it out 2) It won't be games https://twitter.com/...
Katie Greifeld / @kgreifeld: name names https://twitter.com/...
Darren Mooney / @darren_mooney: First time Netflix has lost subscribers in more than a decade, I believe. But perhaps more of an indicator that the public think we're out of the pandemic. https://twitter.com/...
Vicki Notaro Carlyle / @vickinotaro: I was one of them, because €22 a month feels like daylight robbery https://twitter.com/...
Todd Spangler / @xpangler: Netflix Estimates More Than 100 Million Non-Paying Households Use Shared Passwords https://variety.com/... via @variety
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Alex Weprin / Hollywood Reporter:
Reed Hastings says Netflix plans to offer cheaper, ad-supported plans and will examine what those plans will look like “over the next year or two” — Co-CEO Reed Hastings revealed the move on an earnings call after the streaming giant disclosed it lost 200,000 subscribers during its most recent quarter.
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Tim Baysinger / Axios: Netflix pivots amid increased competition as growth stalls
Lucas Shaw / @lucas_shaw: Netflix says it is going to add a cheaper, advertising-supported tier in the next year or two. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Lucas Shaw / @lucas_shaw: Netflix says it will “pull back” on spending growth. This is really the kitchen sink approach.
Kourtnee Jackson / CNET: Netflix Is Open to a Lower Price Tier — With Ads
Dade Hayes / Deadline: Netflix Will Add Advertising In “Next Year Or Two”; Co-CEO Reed Hastings Finally Concedes “Consumer Choice” Prompting Cheaper Plan
Sarah Whitten / CNBC: Netflix is exploring lower-priced, ad-supported plans after years of resisting
Mitchell Clark / The Verge: Netflix CEO now says he's open to a cheaper, ad-supported plan
Manish Singh / TechCrunch: Netflix to introduce ad-supported plans in a major shift
Eric Seufert / @eric_seufert: Ads won't save Netflix—at least, not the advertising initiative that Reed Hastings described in the earnings call last night. Some thoughts in a thread (1/X) https://twitter.com/...
Lucia Moses / @lmoses: Refreshing to hear Netflix calling advertising by its name rather than ‘storytelling’ or the like
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: I for one am ~shocked~ that Netflix, upon seeing increased competition, subscriber slowdown, price hike churn, and trouble scaling in key international territories, is going to offer an ad supported tier. Jokes aside, a major albeit inevitable milestone for the SVOD godfather.
Soumyarendra Barik / The Indian Express: Explained: Netflix reports loss of 2 lakh subscribers in 3 months; why is this happening?
Carl Quintanilla / @carlquintanilla: HASTINGS: “Those who have followed Netflix know that I have been against the complexity of advertising .. But as much as I am a fan of that, I am a bigger fan of consumer choice.” $NFLX https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ ...
Lucas Shaw / @lucas_shaw: If after-hours trading holds up, Netflix will lose almost $40 billion in market cap tomorrow morning.
Nev Fountain / @nevfountain: I think Netflix should be nationalised so it can compete with the BBC. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Weprin / @alexweprin: “It is pretty clear that it is working for Hulu, Disney is doing it, HBO did it. We don't have any doubt that it works.” Netflix embraces advertising: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ ...
@gayguycandleco: Someone please just put all of these streaming services on one platform and let it become even more outrageously priced than the cable we all left for streaming so we can just get it over with. 🙄 https://twitter.com/...
Natalie Jarvey / @natjarv: Netflix executives used to go out of their way to say they wouldn't introduce advertising to their service. Now Reed Hastings says an ad-supported tier is coming in the next “year or two”
Mariella Moon / Engadget: Netflix plans to offer cheaper ad-supported subscription tiers
Mike Shields / @digitalshields: Hearing Reed Hastings favorite show is “Never Have I Ever” (I'll stop this eventually)
Danielle / @danielleloucamp: Maybe they shouldn't have given all their money to Ryan Reynolds https://twitter.com/...
@thethirdhan: I know we've joked about how streaming is taking us full circle back to having 100 cable packages but like... https://twitter.com/...
@murderxbryan: Netflix needs to bring in more money so that they can make more content like “is this cake” or whatever that thing is https://twitter.com/...
@centristmadness: People will probably look back on this as an inevitability but imho they simply were bad at programming. They used algorithms based on what people watched the most on their service and ended up with derivative content and HBOMax and Hulu ate their lunch. https://twitter.com/...
@nycsouthpaw: After many years and much disruption, the tech geniuses have hit upon the idea that a large ad-supported bundle of content with a few things you might like to watch floating in an ocean of crap, alongside some high cost premium options, is the best way to deliver tv to your home. https://twitter.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: Yes Netflix is likely to add an ad-supported lower priced service but to be clear the no commercial feed isn't going away. Of course premium costs more. https://www.wsj.com/...
Peter Kafka / @pkafka: For years, Netflix has insisted on focusing on a single product - and keeping that product ad-free. Last year it introduced video games - and now ads are coming. https://www.vox.com/...
John Hoey / @johnnyhoey: Streaming services are slowly inventing...cable television? Remember when @SIRIUSXM was promoted as commercial free? I do. https://twitter.com/...
Matthew Zeitlin / @mattzeitlin: ahahahahhhhhahaha everyone comes home eventually https://twitter.com/...
Chris Franklin / @campster: I hope they call it Qwikster 2 https://twitter.com/...
Huileng Tan / Insider: Netflix's CEO says he's open to creating a lower-priced tier with ads as the company bleeds subscribers
Martin Peers / The Information: Netflix's Reed Hastings Bows to Advertising Reality
Garett Sloane / Ad Age: Netflix is finally ready to sell ads
Todd Spangler / Variety:
Netflix estimates that its users are sharing passwords with 100M+ non-paying households globally, including 30M+ in the US and Canada, in violation of its rules — There's a whole lot of password-sharing going on across Netflix's customer base — and the streaming giant is eager to get money from the freeloading masses.
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Karl Bode / Techdirt: Netflix Pivots From Innovator To Turf Protector As Executives Whine About Password Sharing
Subrahmanyam Kvj / @sub8u: First we blame content costs. Then we blame competition. Then we blame sleep. Then we blame users. “Netflix said that members who are sharing their login credentials outside the home are contributing to its slowing growth in 2022” https://variety.com/...
Blue Heron Farm / @blueheronfarmtx: Are we...Are we all sharing the same one? https://twitter.com/...
@sir_ruffy: Make noise all you want, we pay for multi so we can share the passwords with our friends and family. You don't want people sharing passwords, remove multi device view and stop charging for them. https://twitter.com/...
Highbrow Theological Shade / @wilgafney: Also, Netflix fin'ta harass you even more for traveling and logging into your own damn account. https://twitter.com/...
Tyler Conway / @jtylerconway: Netflix is gonna fuck around and test us like we didn't all didn't spend our formative years using torrents???? https://twitter.com/...
Alex Weprin / @alexweprin: Netflix is not mincing words, says a global password-sharing crackdown will be coming soon, with more than 100M accounts already sharing worldwide. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ ...
@wisdom_98: They need to give better service and try to keep their current customers. Focused on the wrong thing https://twitter.com/...
Lauren Thomas / @laurenthomas: One has to wonder if/when Peloton will navigate a similar phenomenon. For Peloton, subscription prices are going up — but does the company try tiered options for single-member accounts vs. entire households??? https://twitter.com/...
Ajit Pai / @ajitpai: “@Netflix said it estimates more than 30 million U.S. and Canadian households are using a shared password to access its content. The company said more than 100 million additional households were likely using a shared password worldwide.” @cnbc @sherman4949 https://www.cnbc.com/...
Stephanie Horbaczewski / @iamsteph: So #netflix lost 200k subs for the first time in a decade (bc of Russia) + competition= to monetize existing users better. Adding share fees for accounts they could see $1.6b in revenue @xpangler https://variety.com/... via @variety
Peter Vercoe / Bloomberg:
Netflix added 1.09M subscribers in Asia Pacific, the lone bright spot, helped by the success of the South Korean series Squid Game, its biggest launch
Michael Grothaus / Fast Company:
Disney opens down ~4% and Warner Bros. Discovery opens down ~5%, after Netflix reported a drop in subscribers
Disney opens down ~4% and Warner Bros. Discovery opens down ~5%, after Netflix reported a drop in subscribers
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John Nolte / Breitbart: ‘The Woke Mind Virus Is Making Netflix Unwatchable’
M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler: Hot seat. On fire. In lava. 🪑🔥🌋 https://twitter.com/...
Carl Quintanilla / @carlquintanilla: Disney is now the worst performing Dow stock over the past year — down 31.5%. $DIS https://twitter.com/...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: >> @RichLightShed on Netflix: “The panic you're seeing in the stock, is: ‘Oh my god, is this business model far far smaller than people expected?’” https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/ ...
Adam Ozimek / @modeledbehavior: What is Netflix's competitive advantage now that consumers are willing to try streamers and every content company has a streaming service?
Zack Budryk / @budrykzack: As streaming careens toward the same atomization as the cable landscape it disrupted, all eyes turn to the next big thing in storytelling, describing tweets to your parents
Lauren Leffer / Gizmodo: Netflix Might Add Ads After Shock Stock Drop
Michael M. Grynbaum / New York Times:
Joe Kahn announces his NYT leadership team; Marc Lacey and Carolyn Ryan will be managing editors starting June 14 — A pair of veteran Times journalists will serve in the newsroom's No. 2 position under the new executive editor, Joe Kahn. — Give this article- - - Read in app
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Cliff Levy / @cliffordlevy: 👏Huge applause for @carolynryan and @marclacey, who have just been promoted to NYT managing editor. Brilliant journalists, great innovators, awesome colleagues. They form an outstanding leadership team with Joe Kahn, our terrific new executive editor. https://www.nytimes.com/...
David Folkenflik / @davidfolkenflik: Kahn names strong team to help lead NYT- elevates @marclacey @carolynryan as managing editors (the ping pong thing is real) https://www.nytimes.com/...
Eugene Scott / @eugene_scott: Carolyn Ryan will be the first openly gay journalist to serve as managing editor of The Times. Marc Lacey is the third Black journalist to serve in the role, after Gerald Boyd and Dean Baquet, the current executive editor. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Nicholas Kristof / @nickkristof: The @nytimes announces two managing editors who will work with newly appointed executive editor Joe Kahn in running the Times: Marc Lacey and Carolyn Ryan, both veteran Times people with strong support in the newsroom. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Michael M. Grynbaum / @grynbaum: @carolynryan @marclacey Kahn also named four deputy managing editors: @RBlumenstein , @samdolnick, @Duenes and @cliffordlevy
Michael Slackman / @meslackman: “We are essentially and fundamentally driven by rigorous and original reporting, on-the-ground reporting. That has to be at the heart of everything that we do.” - @carolynryan @nytimes Managing Editor w/@marclacey https://www.nytimes.com/...
Michael M. Grynbaum / @grynbaum: NEW: New York Times names @carolynryan and @marclacey as managing editors. They will share the No. 2 newsroom role under Joe Kahn. https://www.nytimes.com/...
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New York Times:
The New York Times Managing Editor Joe Kahn will succeed Dean Baquet as executive editor, starting in June; Baquet “will remain to lead an exciting new venture” — Mr. Kahn, 57, will take over a newsroom undergoing enormous change. — Give this article- - - Read in app
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Shawn McCreesh / New York Magazine: The Inside Man — Joe Kahn is the new, old-school editor of the Times. But who is he?
Sam Dolnick / @samdolnick: “One of the finest leaders this institution has ever known is stepping down,” says A.G. Sulzberger https://twitter.com/...
Byron York / @byronyork: The new executive editor of the New York Times poses for a profile in @NYMag: https://nymag.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Brian Flood / Fox News: New York Times' new leader ridiculed over ‘uncomfortable’ photoshoot: ‘This is not a serious person’
Dan Kennedy / Media Nation: Joe Kahn seems unlikely to fix The New York Times' broken political coverage
Mariam Ahmed / Talking Biz News: New York Times names Kahn executive editor
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: Here's what @adamdavidson said about Dean Baquet's reign as top editor of The Times, which is officially over with the naming of his successor today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Ingraham / The Why Axis: When millionaires decide what's news
Jonah Goldberg / @jonahdispatch: Obviously not the same, but the energy is not far off. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Marc Lacey / @marclacey: “We don't know where the political zeitgeist will move over time,” Mr. Kahn said in an interview. “Rather than chase that, we want to commit and recommit to being independent.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
@nytimespr: Joe Kahn, the next executive editor of the @nytimes, announces his senior leadership team: @marclacey and @carolynryan as managing editors, and @RBlumenstein, @samdolnick, @Duenes and @cliffordlevy as deputy managing editors. https://www.nytco.com/...
Max Tani / @maxwelltani: having a nice, normal sit with the newspaper i now run https://nymag.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Press / @alexnpress: lotta people noticing how weird this photo is but I can't get past this guy's middle initial being “F” but without any name attached, his parents just wanted his initials to be JFK. rich Boston people are so scary https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Everything about these two paragraphs bodes very ill for progress at the NYT: https://nymag.com/... Sounds so much like Baquet. See: https://presswatchers.org/... https://twitter.com/...
Jonathan Chait / @jonathanchait: If you care about the New York Times, you should read every single word of this @ShawnMcCreesh profile of its new editor, a terrific character study with plenty of Kremlinology https://nymag.com/...
Greg Kelly / @gregkellyusa: Who the hell POSES like this? Get off the floor!!! This is the new “boss” of the NYT? I think that “newspaper” is about to get even WEIRDER. https://twitter.com/...
Michael Oti Adjei / @otiadjei: Reading about the key characters behind the growth of the New York Times including the departing Dean Baquet and incoming Joe Kahn was such an eye opener. So much experience. No easy path to top media executive roles.
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: Kyle Pope, editor of @CJR Columbia Journalism Review, said the appointment of Joe Kahn as next editor of the New York Times sent a clear signal that it has “no plans to rethink its approach.” I agree with that. “We are not the opposition” sums it up. https://www.cjr.org/...
Felicia Sonmez / @feliciasonmez: One might think it's impossible to write a 6,000-plus-word story without quoting a single woman, but ... one would be wrong! https://nymag.com/...
Will Stancil / @whstancil: It seems to me that rich kids grow up thinking the institutions they are part of are working well, which is absolutely not something I want the top editor of America's most important journalistic institution to believe https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: Sadly, @nycscribe thinks the threat to liberal U.S. democracy is just the temporary “political zeitgeist.” Respectfully, how can readers trust a journalist who arrives at this wildly erroneous conclusion? https://www.cjr.org/...
Dan Gillmor / @dangillmor: The Times will be remembered as a great news organization that willingly served the people who hated the American republic. https://twitter.com/...
@shannonfreshour: “to get to the appearance of neutrality, you have to do violence to the truth..” Point blank fact https://twitter.com/...
@cjr: New: In picking Joe Kahn, the New York Times' managing editor, to replace Dean Baquet as executive editor, the newspaper is signaling that it has no plans to rethink its approach, @kylepope writes https://www.cjr.org/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: Baquet repeatedly defined his form of journalist through the lens of its critics. If he pissed off the left and the right equally, then he felt he was doing things correctly. That is not what journalism is. Journalism is fearless, independent, reporting of the truth. https://twitter.com/...
Michael M. Grynbaum / New York Times:
A profile of Joe Kahn, whose focus on China shaped his career, during which he won two Pulitzers and helped turn The New York Times into a 24-hour operation
A profile of Joe Kahn, whose focus on China shaped his career, during which he won two Pulitzers and helped turn The New York Times into a 24-hour operation
Discussion:
Politico, @shawnmccreesh, American Press Institute, @grynbaum, @ashleyfeinberg, @christineemba, @clockwerks, @brianstelter, @gillianwong, @dbauder, @edokeefe, @grynbaum, @jtanews and @otiadjei
Discussion:
Shawn McCreesh / @shawnmccreesh: The Kingdom and the Kahn — my profile of the new top dog at the Times. https://nymag.com/...
American Press Institute: Need to Know: April 20, 2022 — OFF THE TOP — You might have heard: Most Americans …
Michael M. Grynbaum / @grynbaum: My profile of Joe Kahn: a decorated journalist who saw the potential of China before others, whose affluent childhood was disrupted by tragedy, and who is now tasked with leading The New York Times amid the challenges of a polarized era. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Ashley Feinberg / @ashleyfeinberg: if someone doesn't show me the entire reel for this photoshoot i'm going to die https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Christine Emba / @christineemba: this picture has me LOSING IT https://twitter.com/...
Trei Brundrett / @clockwerks: The whole bit in here about their Live desk product, Kahn's role in it, and that they believe it makes NYT competitive with linear cable like CNN is fascinating stuff. “Kahn told me he believes this is where the future of the Times lies.” quite a statement. live stories are big https://twitter.com/...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: “In the news business, three is usually regarded as the minimum number to declare a trend, and it is now official. We are moving away from the age of charismatic editors at America's top news organizations,” @harrispolitico writes https://www.politico.com/...
@gillianwong: Kahn's experience with Chinese officials, well versed in propaganda and deception, was newly relevant. “I would not have thought that being a foreign correspondent in China would be good preparation to be executive editor of The New York Times in 2022.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
David Bauder / @dbauder: As is tradition, Times stays inside with its new executive editors. https://apnews.com/...
Ed O'Keefe / @edokeefe: “I would not have thought that being a foreign correspondent in China would be good preparation to be executive editor of The New York Times in 2022.” - @nycscribe, on how his career prepared him to lead the @nytimes. (By @grynbaum) https://www.nytimes.com/...
Michael M. Grynbaum / @grynbaum: Here's Joe Kahn as an undergrad in 1986. Drawing commissioned by The Harvard Crimson. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Pareene / The AP (Alex Pareene) Newsletter:
The reporters explaining that Taylor Lorenz's door knocking is common journalistic practice fail to grasp that the new right is opposed to any newsgathering — They want someone to knock on your door, too. Not to put you in the newspaper, though. — On Tuesday, Washington Post reporter …
Discussion:
Hamza Shaban / @hshaban: .@pareene on the dishonest cries of “doxxing,” the rejection of journalism — of revealing, news gathering or any semblance of public accountability — and the failure of American newsrooms to adapt to bad faith, propaganda and targeted harassment https://theap.substack.com/...
Dan Gillmor / @dangillmor: Brilliant, from @pareene — https://theap.substack.com/... The extremist right considers real journalism to be an existential threat, and is acting on that — dangerously. So “The only correct posture to take in response is to make yourself an existential threat to their movement.”
Drew Harwell / @drewharwell: Still can't believe @taylorlorenz knocked on a door and cited openly available public records to report on a giant right-wing outrage account saying LGBTQ teachers groom children and directly influencing Republican policy. Have you no decency madam https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: This is a wise piece. I'll add that the reason Republicans want to mire liberals in a “what is doxxing” debate is they DON'T want to debate why they love this gross Libs of TikTok account so much. https://theap.substack.com/...
Chase Woodruff / @dcwoodruff: “They don't just believe the media is too hostile to conservatives; they are hostile to the concept of journalism itself... It's an ideologically coherent opposition to the liberal precepts of verifiability and transparency.” https://theap.substack.com/...
@mor_sock_puppet: A thing I really appreciate about this piece, and @pareene in general, is the moral clarity being brought to the events. https://theap.substack.com/...
Bruce Arthur / @bruce_arthur: Everybody - everybody - should read this, from @pareene. https://theap.substack.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Scott Tobias / @scott_tobias: I think @pareene's newsletter has been consistently aces, but you should really take time to read this piece about yesterday's Libs of TikTok piece and right-wing efforts to dismantle journalism. https://theap.substack.com/...
Marisa Kabas / @marisakabas: conservatives know that taylor lorenz was practicing standard journalism procedure, they're just mad that she was successful because they hate journalism! great piece by @pareene: https://theap.substack.com/...
Michael Calderone / @mlcalderone: “All I would like my unbiased, objective, nonpartisan reporter friends to understand is that they are debating with people that consider them the enemy not just in a partisan sense but in an existential one,” writes @pareene in a must-read for journalists https://theap.substack.com/...
Ashley Feinberg / @ashleyfeinberg: good pareene https://theap.substack.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Simon Owens / @simonowens: This is the best analysis I've read of the Taylor Lorenz backlash. https://theap.substack.com/...
Peter Sagal / @petersagal: Speaking of good writing, @pareene has always been so sharp and savage that I enjoy him even when I actually like his targets. (Not the case here.) https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Mathias / @letsgomathias: One of those articles where you want to screenshot & share every paragraph, by @pareene https://theap.substack.com/...
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Taylor Lorenz / Washington Post:
A look at the woman behind Libs of TikTok, a Twitter account that reposts videos along with incendiary framing and is shaping LGBTQ+ right-wing media coverage
A look at the woman behind Libs of TikTok, a Twitter account that reposts videos along with incendiary framing and is shaping LGBTQ+ right-wing media coverage
Discussion:
@ndrew_lawrence, @libsoftiktok, @mattbinder, @alexstamos, @nycsouthpaw, @oneunderscore__, @jdvance1, @oneunderscore__, @ndrew_lawrence, @mattbinder, @mattbinder, @michaelehayden, @davidklion, @alexthomp, @robbysoave, @justinhendrix, @oneunderscore__, @ggreenwald, New York Post, @paulholmespr, @brandyzadrozny, @benjysarlin, @taylorlorenz, @christinapushaw, @rvawonk, @kriscoratti, @kendallybrown, @cd_hooks, @3r1ng, @pbump, @blakersdozen, Digital Threat Digest, @bubbaprog, @mollyjongfast, @meredithshiner, @hezbolsonaro, @beyerstein, @ndrew_lawrence, @bigblackjacobin, @meredithshiner, @literaryeric, @alexstamos, @junlper, @oneunderscore__, @kept_simple, The Racket News, Fox News, @taylorlorenz, @mehdirhasan, @beyerstein, @taylorlorenz, @kattenbarge, @lackingsaint, @beyerstein, @beyerstein, @taylorlorenz, @beyerstein, @alexstamos, @_cingraham, @cjciaramella, @conor64, @ericowensdc, @ggreenwald, @ggreenwald, @ggreenwald, @ggreenwald, @eoinhiggins_, @becketadams, @agoldmund, @taylorlorenz, thedailybeast.com, @oneunderscore__, @oneunderscore__, @oneunderscore__, @oneunderscore__, @oneunderscore__, @kathryntewson, @andyswan, @steveschmidtses, @steveschmidtses, @heminator, Mediaite, @the_moviebob, Real News Revolt, @mathewi, @taylorlorenz, @steveschmidtses, @ggreenwald, @glennf, @janeost_, @dklmarxist, @ggreenwald, @maxwelltani, @pwnallthethings, @turnip_tops, @scottnover, @hasanthehun, @andrewperezdc, @thelincoln, @taylorlorenz, @brianstelter and @benshapiro
Discussion:
Andrew Lawrence / @ndrew_lawrence: hes saying that the article about libs of tik tok was a foreign intelligence operation involving the german government and quite possibly the biden administration https://twitter.com/...
@libsoftiktok: Hi @TaylorLorenz! Which of my relatives did you enjoy harassing the most at their homes yesterday? https://twitter.com/...
Matt Binder / @mattbinder: all the info in the Libs of TikTok piece was already publicly available online. but Taylor had one thing that no one else had which made the report possible...Glenn Greenwald accidentally confirming their identity lol https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Alex Stamos / @alexstamos: De-anonymizing somebody online in a major outlet is a form of doxxing, period. Even if done with public records. Even if done to somebody you dislike. That doesn't mean it's not justified by circumstances, but let's not mince words when justifying it.
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: Say there are two women with the same, very specific name. They live in the same exact neighborhood. One is a TikTok influencer. Nice family, cute kids, loves a good handbag. One runs an anti-LGBT TikTok aggregator. She's a regular on Tucker Carlson—but never shows her face.
J.D. Vance / @jdvance1: Bezos's mouthpiece (the Washington Post) doxxing Libs of Tik Tok is further evidence that the purpose of the corporate media is industrial scale harassment. Time for defamation reform for the media, and to break up their Big Tech enablers.
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: Lol that was fast. https://twitter.com/...
Andrew Lawrence / @ndrew_lawrence: Online influencer Glenn Greenwald thinks its absolutely sick that someone would spend all day online trolling people https://twitter.com/...
Matt Binder / @mattbinder: just want to point out that this tweet that Libs of TikTok just posted herself has more identifying information than anything Taylor Lorenz published https://twitter.com/...
Matt Binder / @mattbinder: right wingers have no idea what Taylor Lorenz published. they're just making things up based on the outrage. no home addresses or phone numbers were shared by any reporter. https://twitter.com/...
Michael Edison Hayden / @michaelehayden: Let the record show that the Pizzagate Boys are total cowards who apparently cry at the sound of their own doorbells https://twitter.com/...
David Klion / @davidklion: If every Twitter account with more than 10,000 followers (which is to say, a tiny minority of accounts) had to disclose its identity as a matter of company policy, what would be bad about that? What public interest is served by enabling high-visibility anonymous accounts?
Alex Thompson / @alexthomp: Showing up at people's homes is standard journalism that more reporters should do. like half of “all the president's men” is Woodstein showing up at people's homes. https://twitter.com/...
Robby Soave / @robbysoave: @TaylorLorenz I ask this in genuine good faith: How do you square this sort of reporting with your stated position that doxxing is never okay? It seems you are likely to direct no small amount of harassment toward this woman as a result of exposing her.
Justin Hendrix / @justinhendrix: Meet the Queens woman behind Libs of TikTok, secretly fueling the right's outrage machine (with help from Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald). She promoted January 6 and pretended to be at the Capitol that day. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: His show is starting to make Infowars look like the Encyclopedia Britannica. 2 a.m. unhinged subway rant stuff from the most watched show on cable TV. No effort at all to establish a basis in factual information. https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: This is a stupid viral lie being spread by Taylor. She announced she intended to publish @libsoftiktok's name. After, @libsoftiktok provided proof Taylor went to her relatives' houses and asked me to report it to deter Taylor from stalking more people. https://twitter.com/...
Paul Holmes / @paulholmespr: The WaPo is giving @TaylorLorenz the freedom to pursue important stories and the platform those stories deserve. The kudos she has earned for this piece is entirely appropriate, although I suspect the rage it generated on the right is more rewarding. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Brandy Zadrozny / @brandyzadrozny: She went door knocking and ... he just ... tweeted it out. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Benjy Sarlin / @benjysarlin: It's wild how quickly this account took over my feed, but the story really gets at why — there's an endless demand for main characters on the right when culture wars are ascendant. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: Libs of TikTok has become a powerful force online, shaping right-wing media, impacting anti-LGBTQ+ legislation & influencing millions by posting viral videos aimed at inciting outrage. I wrote abt the account, the woman behind it, and why it matters https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
@christinapushaw: The Bezos Post's internet hall monitor is so excited to “expose” @libsoftiktok. Here is my comment: 🤡 https://twitter.com/...
Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D / @rvawonk: Oh see this right here changes the game entirely. Libs of TikTok lost any possible claim to being just a private citizen when they trademarked their account as a “news reporter service.” Taylor Lorenz was right to write this, and I'm glad she did. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Kristine Coratti Kelly / @kriscoratti: Statement from @cameronbarr re: reporting from @TaylorLorenz https://twitter.com/...
Kendall Brown / @kendallybrown: One of the teachers targeted by Libs of TikTok—and subsequently sent death threats by the account's followers—was Oklahoma teacher Tyler Wrynn. He then lost his job. The video he was targeted over was just telling LGBTQ kids rejected by their parents that they're loved. https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Hooks / @cd_hooks: Am I wrong or didn't “doxing” used to mean dumping a person's address, phone number, job, family members, contact info of close relations, ssn, etc. on the internet? When did it become “here is this person's name?”
Erin Gallagher / @3r1ng: @etbrooking @alexstamos You'd think in the year 2022, one might know enough ask “who benefits from conflating the act of doing journalism with doxing?” and that answer would be obvious, especially for a former CSO of a major tech platform. https://twitter.com/...
Philip Bump / @pbump: you: tucker carlson could not possibly do anything more ridiculous this week than promote testicle tanning tucker carlson: [hands you his beer] https://twitter.com/...
Blake Montgomery / @blakersdozen: I went to jail once for door-knocking the subject of a story. It's not something reporters do for lolz or for menace. It's a last-ditch gesture of good faith to get the subject's side of the story when they won't respond. https://twitter.com/...
Timothy Burke / @bubbaprog: totally unhinged conspiracy theory promotion on America's most-watched cable news program https://twitter.com/...
Molly Jong-Fast / @mollyjongfast: Says the tech Venture capitalist who made his money in tech. https://twitter.com/...
Meredith Shiner / @meredithshiner: anyway it's never a good personal approach to step into Taylor Twitter, but that story today was important and people's lives are being ruined by an extremist propaganda machine with a direct pipeline from this account to the highest-profile “media” outlets in the ecosystem.
@hezbolsonaro: For some reason Glenn Greenwald has changed his view on anonymous outlets that harass and defame people and try to get them fired https://twitter.com/...
Lindsay Beyerstein / @beyerstein: And since Chaya Raichik has over 600k followers in her own right and she's being aided and abetted by the likes of Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, and Joe Rogan, reaching hundreds of millions of people, her accusations of child molestation are serious.
Andrew Lawrence / @ndrew_lawrence: we're through the looking glass here people
@bigblackjacobin: Biggest mark in the world if you pay for someone to aggregate Tik Tok content for you https://twitter.com/...
Meredith Shiner / @meredithshiner: It's wild to me the institutions that have employed @TaylorLorenz to do important reporting on influential, dark places on the web that are reshaping our society are fundamentally incurious about the organized online campaigns against her, who coordinates them and why.
Eric Nelson / @literaryeric: This is supposed to be a criticism of the mainstream media, but it's also a total fucking embarrassment that conservative media is reliant on a lady who watches TikTok for their investigative reporting. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Stamos / @alexstamos: It looks like the Washington Post silently edited the story to remove a link to the person's address, so at least somebody at the Post agrees with my concerns.
@junlper: libsoftiktok all of a sudden is not the biggest fan of free speech or expression,,, https://twitter.com/...
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: It's all just a business.
Mark / @kept_simple: it's getting to the point that you can't even incite a pogrom against queer teachers without someone revealing the name that appears in public documents related to the licensing of your personal brand
Steve Berman / The Racket News: The everlasting, poo-flinging war of the nutpickers
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: Of course. Hope everyone has a chance to read the piece https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Mehdi Hasan / @mehdirhasan: Put aside the bonkers claim here, Carlson wants Taylor Lorenz to register as an agent of a foreign (German) government under FARA - the same Carlson who shills for Orban & whose father was “listed as a director of a Washington-based firm that has lobbied for Mr. Orban in the” US https://twitter.com/...
Lindsay Beyerstein / @beyerstein: There are already cracks appearing the the facade that she's just a simple realtor with a passion for homophobia.
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: 🤪🤪🤪 https://twitter.com/...
Kat Tenbarge / @kattenbarge: People love to post screenshots of journalists reaching out to them for comment as if that's not literally one of the most crucial parts of our job
Jack Saint / @lackingsaint: really just terrible awful news about libsoftiktok, an account which has always stood for such integrity and respect for the rights of private citizens https://twitter.com/...
Lindsay Beyerstein / @beyerstein: Calling their critics child molesters is the GOP's main domestic agenda. I'm serious.
Lindsay Beyerstein / @beyerstein: The point of the story is that the anonymous operative behind LibsofTikTok is Chaya Raichik and we should care about that because she's calling named individuals child molesters and her content is being amplified by the biggest names in right wing media. https://twitter.com/...
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: @meredithshiner fwiw WaPo has been great! My editor totally gets it and the managers have been so supportive. I'm not pressed abt any of this stuff. Idiots online can whine all they want and post wild lies about me, I'll keep doing my stories 💪🏻. Hope ur staying safe out there!💓
Lindsay Beyerstein / @beyerstein: So, it is inherently newsworthy when the name of one of the most influential operatives in the pedophilia smear campaign is discovered. We should all be curious about who she is and how she's connected to national figures in the GOP and the RW media.
Alex Stamos / @alexstamos: Looks like this was a business address. Was ambiguous from Google Street View. I'm still uncomfortable with the Post's focus on this individual's personal details and the silent editing of a story without explanation. Hopefully there is a public discussion of their standards.
Christopher Ingraham / @_cingraham: @oneunderscore__ “Posting more exclusive content,” like links to public TikTok videos lmao
@cjciaramella: If you love calling anyone who disagrees with you a groomer, you should definitely support loosening up libel laws. It will be a big win for you! https://twitter.com/...
Conor Friedersdorf / @conor64: If you think the anonymity question w/r/t Libs of TikTok is uncomplicated—that the name itself is *obviously* newsworthy—would you feel the same about a large follower, influential account that posted mocking videos of cops, some misbehaving, some out-of-context unfair gotchas?
Eric Owens / @ericowensdc: @conor64 Yes. It's obviously newsworthy. If you wish to be anonymous, protect your anonymity. Do not give interviews to Fox News and The Daily Caller, for example. There is no right to anonymity.
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: Look how the WashPost and other liberal corporate outlets doles out or denies the “journalist” label all based on whether they like the political outcome of one's reporting or whether you're supporting or subverting the liberal orthodoxy of the moment: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: I'd be happy to compare journalistic accomplishments with the editors and employees of WPost who keep concocting titles for me other than “journalist” to see who merits the term. Being called an “online influencer” by Taylor is like being called a war criminal by David Frum. https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: Taylor purposely wrote the article to imply the confirmation came from me. She had already announced to multiple people she knew the name and would publish it. The WP tried to pretend I provided the confirmation because they're lying gossips who lie routinely about their enemies.
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: I really want to see the parallel world in which people visit Taylor's house and the homes and workplaces of her relatives to dig up dirt on her. I have a strong feeling the people defending Taylor doing this to private citizens won't be similarly supportive if it's done to her.
@eoinhiggins_: One of the funnier parts of this absolutely unhinged meltdown is that Glenn called himself the “godfather” of the homophobic account in question and is now whimpering over being used as confirmation for a key point in the story. https://twitter.com/...
Becket Adams / @becketadams: “fueling the right's outrage machine” is such a hilariously telling way to describe an account that simply reposts left-wing social media content. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Goldman / @agoldmund: Reporting the name of someone who already has a public profile and also uses a twitter account to sic hordes of trolls on other people is not doxing. It's reporting. It's like the most basic building block of reporting.
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: Rather than debate “doxxing” I hope people can read this story and see the striking escalation of attacks against gay and trans people, and the crucial role this account has played in the right wing media ecosystem https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
William Vaillancourt / thedailybeast.com: Tucker Calls Reporter Who Unmasked Libs of Tik Tok Creator a German Stooge
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: If you do A, you're reporting. And you're saving the other Chaya Raichik from being associated with an anti-LGBT hate account. If you do B, you're not reporting. You're guessing. And you're absconding from the hard part of being a reporter.
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: The reporter calls the number associated with the anti-gay TikTok business. Quick hang-up. Okay. What's the next step for a reporter? Is it: A) See if you can confirm it in person. B) Guess and hope you're right.
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: In conclusion, people should check out this very good piece of reporting and journalism about this very scenario. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: A reporter has figured out that this is solvable: The domain records for the anti-gay TikTok business absolve the other influencer in the same neighborhood. It appears they're two different people. But the reporter still has to confirm this.
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: I can see why some people would pick B. It's easier. It makes a vicious Substack. And you don't have to leave the house. But A is what reporters do — and have done for centuries. It's what the truth is. When it comes to hate accounts with big money allies, the truth matters.
Kathryn Tewson / @kathryntewson: In the most chef kiss moment of all of this, it turns out the person who doxed LOTT most thoroughly is Greenwald himself: https://twitter.com/...
Andy Swan / @andyswan: The right gets mad when you lie about them. The left gets mad when you tell the truth about them. https://twitter.com/...
Steve Schmidt / @steveschmidtses: 7/ why it is an important story, no matter how angry the extremists get. The viciousness of social media harassment and the use of propaganda to attack, dehumanize, stigmatize and neutralize political opposition is a profoundly important feature of our politics that is not
Steve Schmidt / @steveschmidtses: 8/ particularly well understood or covered. Bravo to @washingtonpost and @TaylorLorenz for doing it so well. Once again @FoxNews and a small number of players are all clustered together at the sight of a spreading cultural metastasis. No surprise at all.
Mark Hemingway / @heminator: Notice how the many corporate media folks just say that LibsOfTikTok is “anti-LGBT” and “anti-gay.” I know plenty of gay people that don't approve of the rhetoric that account is highlighting. This isn't a settled question. https://twitter.com/...
Kipp Jones / Mediaite: Tucker Carlson Rips ‘Whining’ Taylor Lorenz For Unmasking ‘Libs of TikTok’ Creator: 'She's Not a Journalist'
@the_moviebob: Counterpoint: If this is about the “LIBS OF TIKTOK” creature? No it's not. You can't bully a bully or inflict cruelty on the cruel. Bad things happen to bad people. Make bigots afraid to speak their hate again. Make their kids ashamed people will find out what their parents are https://twitter.com/...
Trey Vaught / Real News Revolt: The Washington Post Targets a Private Citizen to Protect Grooming Teachers
Mathew Ingram / @mathewi: @BGrueskin @emilybell I agree! My point is just that it used to be easier to define — are you an elected official, do you run a public company. Now the terms are a lot more fluid: how many Twitter followers do you have, and were you quoted by Glenn Greenwald, etc. A lot more room for debate
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: One of the leading anti-LGBTQ influencers online publicly claims to be an insurrectionist and at the Capitol on Jan 6th https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Steve Schmidt / @steveschmidtses: This 👇 story below is essential reading. Understanding the Right Wing Smear Machine and the malice that drives it is essential. Apparently, the use of good old fashioned shoe leather journalism in pursuit of facts has given great offense to @ggreenwald, one of Putins https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: Taylor Lorenz is about to “expose” the private citizen behind some anonymous account on Twitter, and when people criticize her for it, she and her friends will claim Taylor is the Real Victim™ and anyone criticizing this type of “journalism” will be guilty of causing her trauma. https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Fleishman / @glennf: This is tendentious bullshit. The reason doxxing was coined as a term is that it is a combination of the release of identifying, often private information and the intent to incite abuse and harassment. Reporting on a powerful, anonymous political figure is hardly doxxing. https://twitter.com/...
Jane / @janeost_: i'm just a smol bean hate peddler backed by republican operatives doing my best to get vulnerable people killed, why are you not respecting my privacy
@dklmarxist: Half of libs of TikTok account is trying to get a they/them teacher fired for wearing a button with a trans flag, not really in a place to complain about doxxing.
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: Taylor Lorenz wrote this two fucking weeks ago!!! Do you not see how corporate journalists have created a framework where they can do *anything* to anyone they want and nobody can do anything to them, including criticize them (because it generates “harassment")?? https://twitter.com/...
Max Tani / @maxwelltani: Taylor Lorenz is an interesting journalist/media figure, and I've definitely contributed to this, but I'm not sure what we're getting out of having a media news cycle about her every week.
@pwnallthethings: The result of a policy like this would be that it is impossible for many people to express public views about matters unrelated to their employer without clearing it with their respective employer's PR team (which for many would mean closing the account). https://twitter.com/...
Broccoli Rob / @turnip_tops: the fact that this person was “doxxed” by 1) their domain registration, 2) an LLC filing by those Babylon Bee idiots and 3) Glenn Greenwald's tweets is just too perfect https://twitter.com/...
Scott Nover / @scottnover: I don't think doxxing is a particularly helpful word. Just say what you mean: If you think an account should be able to anonymously smear gay people to millions on TikTok, or that the founders of a multibillion dollar company should be allowed to be cartoon apes, just say so.
@hasanthehun: this woman is quite literally cutting propaganda for the republican party by blasting random queer teachers on the tl and trying to get them fired. unmasking her is journalism. making it seem like this is just some random twitter acc is odd. https://twitter.com/...
Andrew Perez / @andrewperezdc: This story is largely based around someone registering a website with their name and phone number. How is anyone melting down over that lol https://twitter.com/...
Lincoln Michel / @thelincoln: So if I understand today's right wing talking points, running an account that tries to get teachers fired for their speech is not cancel culture but any reporting on the account that tries to cancel people is cancel culture. Got it.
Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz: This is ultimately a story about how online influence warps our political discourse and shapes policy, as well as the right wing media's symbiotic relationship w/ a massive political influencer. Read my whole thread below👇🏻 @mattyglesias https://twitter.com/...
Sara Fischer / Axios:
Sources: Warner Bros. Discovery suspended external CNN+ marketing and laid off CNN CFO Brad Ferrer, replaced by Discovery's CFO for streaming and international — Warner Bros. Discovery has suspended all external marketing spend for CNN+ and has laid off CNN's longtime chief financial officer …
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@axios: SCOOP: CNN+ looks doomed. Warner Bros. Discovery has suspended all external marketing spend for CNN+ and has laid off CNN's longtime CFO as it weighs what to do with it moving forward. https://www.axios.com/...
Damon Kiesow / @dkiesow: CNN+ launched March 29. Pulling the plug now is a pure indictment of executives not the product itself or the staff who built and launched it. https://www.axios.com/...
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: Wow. @sarafischer reports that CNN and its owner, Warner Bros. Discovery, are “misaligned” on the new streaming network CNN+, which is an enormous investment. CNN execs are frustrated that new leadership is moving quickly to dismantle CNN+, says Fischer. https://www.axios.com/...
David Sirota / @davidsirota: One takeaway here is that CNN and other such outlets can survive on old legacy platforms (traditional cable) that have high entry costs they can pay, but when they're forced to compete on an even playing field (the Internet), they struggle to find an audience. https://twitter.com/...
Greg Lukianoff / @glukianoff: It seemed like a bad idea but I nonetheless feel for everyone involved in this ambitious project. https://twitter.com/...
@sarthakgh: Yet another win in the anti Galloway index He not only had a show on the service but also spent years advocating for a CNN subscription service https://twitter.com/...
David Poland / @davidpoland: This is actually good news. Don't throw good money after bad. There will be a CNN+ or some such thing. This product was not ready to go. It wasn't a value, even at $3 a month. https://twitter.com/...
Ned Ryun / @nedryun: Seriously. He's an arrogant dunce. Pretty much got what he deserved. https://twitter.com/...
@sylabdul_inc: Zaslav is here to put out fires! Hes not messing around! CNN+ was a mistake before it was even released. The blunder kilar made strolling out the door WBD cut spending for cnn app, likely doomed https://www.axios.com/...
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: We're months away from the rebundling of streaming services into one app with a single subscription fee to save costs. Cable TV will rise again. https://twitter.com/...
Kelly Ellis / @justkelly_ok: Who exactly did they think was going to subscribe? Whomst among us looks at 24-hour news channels and says “you know what, I need even more of this” https://twitter.com/...
@reesetheone1: Somehow Dems and Joe Biden will be blamed for this as well. CNN has been the third wheel network since Fox took over on the right and MSNBC went lean forward under the Obama years. They don't have an identity. https://twitter.com/...
Justin Baragona / @justinbaragona: “What to watch: Sources say a plan is being considered to replace Chris Cuomo's 9:00pm EST primetime slot with a live newscast, instead of personality-driven perspective programming.” https://www.axios.com/...
Isaac Saul / @ike_saul: I really can't believe anyone at CNN ever thought this was going to work. https://twitter.com/...
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: CNN is a core resource when there's breaking news/major event. It's not a habit. Building habits around news is tough — see NYT building out games/cooking to help turn its entirety into a habit. Especially in the US. CNN is global, but US audiences love anchored opinion hours.
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: Sunset the CNN+ app, divide some form of live news video to the CNN app (advertising), and docs to HBO Max (subscriber funded). But it's still not live news on the app, and the linear network without anchor/opinion driven segments become a tougher sell when there's no major news. https://twitter.com/...
Nathan Baschez / @nbashaw: CNN+ is 21 days old That's like 1/10th of a Quibi! (shut down after 6 mo's) https://twitter.com/...
Sam Adams / @samuelaadams: I for one cannot understand why the plan to have everyone spend hundreds of dollars on dozens of separate streaming services every month has not been more successful https://www.axios.com/...
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: Directional change is aspirational. We all get it. But advertisers are notably skittish of hard news (CNN's Ukraine coverage + Applebees, for ex), ratings are down 70% in key demo since Cuomo, short term loss is potentially Fox's big gain, + how much loss can you afford to take? https://twitter.com/...
@edasante77: Discovery's CEO doesn't mess around, it'll be lights out for CNN in general if it doesn't boost the bottom line. https://twitter.com/...
Sopan Deb / @sopandeb: it's good that CNN was/is trying something new. you'd rather have that than legacy outlets just doing the same thing repeatedly. that it's not working isn't unique to CNN. it speaks to a larger, shrinking industry overall and ultimately, that's not good for journalism.
Scott Rising / @rising: maybe people decided 24-hours of news was enough and they didn't need a + https://twitter.com/...
Pradheep J. Shanker / @neoavatara: Edsel. New Coke. CNN+. https://twitter.com/...
Sopan Deb / @sopandeb: finding it weird how many media figures are celebrating this. jobs will be lost, and there are a lot of good journalists who work at CNN plus https://twitter.com/...
Paris Marx / @parismarx: you mean CNN's liberal audience wasn't drawn in by the prospect of watching Chris Wallace? https://twitter.com/...
Dave Lee / @daveleeft: Depressingly predictable. CNN+ had no defined audience, no incentive to pay, no fresh thinking. Frustrating how these projects will be cited as proof that people won't pay for news, when really it's a case of execution. https://twitter.com/...
Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / @ashkan: Is it just me or does the Discovery Warner Bros. post close vibe has a AOL/Time Warner and AT&T/Warner Media feel to it already? https://www.mediagazer.com/...
David Uberti / @daviduberti: *whispers* 150,000 subscribers so far doesn't seem bad! https://twitter.com/...
Chris / @chrismnovak: Wow who would've ever foreseen such a thing happening? https://twitter.com/...
Oliver Willis / @owillis: nobody could have predicted this thing that had zero demand and was a vanity project for a bad head of network and his band of cult-like journalists/employees would not work out https://twitter.com/...
Krystal Ball / @krystalball: Well that was fast lol https://twitter.com/...
Gerry Smith / Bloomberg:
Many talk shows are struggling to adapt to streaming, as such shows depend on current events and streamers want programming that appeals to users globally — Streaming services have already proved that they can produce Oscar-winning movies, Emmy-worthy dramatic series and high-profile live sports.
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Candice Ortiz / Mediaite: Jon Stewart Responds to ‘Creepy Weirdo’ Breitbart Writer Over Report His Apple TV Show Flopped: ‘They Upped Our Episode Order!!’
Joe Toplyn / @joetoplyn: This Bloomberg article discusses why Jon Stewart's talk show on Apple TV+ is doing so poorly. I point out one factor: A late-night-style show on a streaming service can't be very topical. https://www.bloombergquint.com/ ...
Michael Quinn Sullivan / @mqsullivan: Whether it is CNN+ or “The Problem with Jon Stewart” - compared to the success of those like Joe Rogan and the Daily Wire - the streaming services are finding there isn't a paying audience for bloviating leftwing hacks. https://www.bloombergquint.com/ ...
Laura Ingraham / @ingrahamangle: A towering talent nonetheless: Jon Stewart's Struggles Add to List of Streaming Talk Show Flops https://www.bloombergquint.com/ ... via @BloombergQuint
Jerry Dunleavy / @jerrydunleavy: the most interesting thing Jon Stewart has said probably in years was his late night show rant last summer about “the Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab” and I was able to get that for free, so yeah this isn't surprising. https://twitter.com/...
Sam Haselby / @samhaselby: Stewart's new show is struggling. But the Comedy Central liberalism that he represented, in which the main problem in the US is right-wing news and pundits, colonized a generation of liberal minds and endures. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
James Oliphant / @jamesoliphant: It's not just our politics that create alternative factual universes, it's our corporate culture. Read the quote from Apple in this story. It doesn't engage in the premise of the story at all or acknowledge the issues at play. Just a smiley-face sticker. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Jesse Singal / @jessesingal: I wasn't interested until I saw him argue that There's A Problem With White People, which is the sort of truly interesting, exciting, and most of all novel content I'll absolutely purchase a subscription to access https://twitter.com/...
John J. Edwards III / @johnjedwards3: If you're like me, you've been meaning to check out Jon Stewart's Apple TV+ show but haven't gotten around to it. @gerryfsmith looks at the host's predicament https://www.bloomberg.com/... via @business
Lucas Shaw / @lucas_shaw: Jon Stewart joins a long line of famous comedians who have struggled in their transition to streaming. This @gerryfsmith piece is one of the most read stories on @TheTerminal today. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Alex Thompson / @alexthomp: This is probably a combo of Stewart becoming more earnest/less funny and the environment changing to reward more partisan dunking https://www.bloomberg.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Betsy Klein / CNN:
WHCA says Joe Biden will attend the White House Correspondents' Dinner on April 30, the first time a sitting president has attended since 2016 — President Joe Biden and first lady Jill Biden will attend the White House Correspondents' Dinner on April 30, the White House Correspondents' Association announced Wednesday.
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Brent D. Griffiths / Insider: Biden will attend the White House correspondents dinner, breaking with Trump's repeated snubs of the event
Tim Fullerton / @timfullerton: One good thing Trump did was not go to this. Was hoping that would be the end of it. Guess not. https://twitter.com/...
Julie Westfall / @juliewestfall: Well now everything is for sure back to normal https://twitter.com/...
Adam B. Vary / Variety:
Entertainment Weekly Editor in Chief Mary Margaret is leaving and will be replaced by Executive Editor Patrick Gomez, who will take the title of general manager — Mary Margaret will exit her role as editor-in-chief of Entertainment Weekly, and she'll be replaced by EW executive editor Patrick Gomez …
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Matt Tamanini / The Streamable:
TiVo study finds 28% of US viewers resubscribed to pay TV after cutting the cord; 29% say it is because it is the best way to watch sports and major live events — Cutting the cord can be complicated. That's why we here at The Streamable try to make it as simple as possible for you.
Sara Fischer / Axios:
Rolling Stone CEO Gus Wenner says 2021 was the company's most profitable year in two decades, due to a renewed investment in live events and a focus on creators — Rolling Stone will debut its inaugural “Creators” issue Tuesday, featuring the first in-depth profile of YouTube star MrBeast.
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@heyitschili: Look I've gone this long without knowing who MrBeast is and I feel like going a little longer like this. https://twitter.com/...
Dr Fern Riddell / @fernriddell: Hey @RollingStone I am also creative https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@dcnorg: .@RollingStone broke even in 2019 and would've posted a bigger profit in 2020 if it weren't for the pandemic. Last year was its most profitable year in 2 decades & CEO Wenner said the outlet is on pace to surpass that margin in 2022. https://www.axios.com/... @PenskeMedia @axios
Karissa Bell / @karissabe: I know a lot of old folks are going to roll their eyes at this but as someone who grew reading RS religiously .. I think this is really smart! https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: Looks like Rolling Stone & Penske trying to build the next Vidcon. More than that, here's an old, big-media outlet paying respect to creators. Interesting from @sarafischer. Rolling Stone pivots to creators https://www.axios.com/...
Dennis Herring / @dcherring: i'm feelin this nu Rolling Stone 😎 👏 @NoahShachtman https://twitter.com/...