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Mstyslav Chernov / Associated Press:
An AP journalist recounts their harrowing experiences covering Mariupol under Russian attack; the two AP journalists, the last in Mariupol, have now left — MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The Russians were hunting us down. They had a list of names, including ours, and they were closing in.
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Jake Epstein / Insider: 2 AP journalists documenting the siege of Mariupol say they were on a Russian hit list
Julie Pace / @juliepace: Many of you have asked about our brave @AP team in Mariupol. This is the story of how they covered a city under siege, and how they escaped. https://apnews.com/...
Ken Meyer / Mediaite: AP Journalist Reports Terrifying Account of Leaving Mariupol After Covering Russia's Maternity Hospital Attack
Ross McDonnell / @mcdonnellross: AP journalists who brought us searing images from inside the siege of #Mariupol Evgeniy Maloletka and Mstyslav Chernov are safely out of the city. Thank you for your courage. @EMaloletka @AssociatedPress https://apnews.com/...
Olga Tokariuk / @olgatokariuk: We know about horrors happenings in Mariupol thanks to two @AP photographers, who were there from Feb 24. They took photos of the Russian-bombed maternity hospital.They ended up on Russian hit lists and fled the city on Mar 15. Their account is a must read https://apnews.com/...
Terry Dresbach / @draiochta14: Thanks to the brave journalists who keep the lights on. I am on the verge of just automatically blocking people who tweet to me about how corrupt and untrustworthy they are. https://twitter.com/...
Maria Romanenko / @rommari: Those who didn't believe there was a hit list/kill list need to read this article: https://twitter.com/...
Liz Cookman / @liz_cookman: Astonishing from @AP photographers who stayed in besieged Mariupol: “We were in the hospital when gunmen began stalking corridors. Surgeons gave us white scrubs to wear as camouflage. “Suddenly at dawn, a dozen soldiers burst in: 'Where are the journalists, for f**k's sake?'” https://twitter.com/...
Nick Schifrin / @nickschifrin: All hail the harrowing, extraordinary work in Mariupol of @AP's Mstyslav Chernov and Evgeniy Maloletka. Largely thanks to them, we knew the horror of Russia's crimes in the city and have been able to tell victims' stories in real time. How they escaped: https://apnews.com/...
Mark Stone / @stone_skynews: “I have never, ever felt that breaking the silence was so important.” This is truly exceptional and immensely brave journalism. https://twitter.com/...
Miriam Elder / @miriamelder: The harrowing story of how Mstyslav Chernov and Evgeniy Maloletka fled Mariupol, after Russia began hunting them down, knowing the two men's essential reporting was the biggest threat to their crude propaganda and brutal lies https://apnews.com/...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: This is why @juliepace didn't go into detail about the status of the AP's Mariupol team on @ReliableSources yesterday. Now it's safe to tell the story: https://twitter.com/...
Lydia Kulbida / @lydiaon10: “ The officer, who had once begged us to show the world his dying city, now pleaded with us to go. He nudged us toward the thousands of battered cars preparing to leave Mariupol. It was March 15. We had no idea if we would make it out alive.” https://twitter.com/...
Tristan McConnell / @t_mcconnell: “We were the last journalists in Mariupol. Now there are none.” Mystyslav Chernov and Evgeniy Maloletka of @AP escaped after being put on a Russian hit list for documenting the ongoing horrors of the siege https://apnews.com/...
Emma Graham-Harrison / @_emmagh: Ukrainian troops extracted two AP journalists from Mariupol, because their work was so powerful Russia was hunting them. “They want to get you on camera & make you say everything you filmed is a lie,” he said. This is their extraordinary story https://apnews.com/...
Dan Lamothe / @danlamothe: “MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The Russians were hunting us down. They had a list of names, including ours, and they were closing in.” Firsthand account from journalists at war. https://apnews.com/...
Daniel W. Drezner / @dandrezner: JFC this story. “If they catch you, they will get you on camera and they will make you say that everything you filmed is a lie... All your efforts and everything you have done in Mariupol will be in vain.” https://apnews.com/...
Michael MacLeod / @michaelmacleod1: This is terrifying and brave work. Sadly Russia's military isn't stopping. It's a relentless and ruthless flattening of place after place. Opening door after door, hunting down targets like journalists so the truth can't reach the world. This report is v worrying. https://twitter.com/...
Lukasz Olejnik / @lukolejnik: Chilling report of city (Mariupol) destruction strategy. Electricity, water, food cut off one after another. And communication: that's when chaos started. At that point, the Russians could do whatever they wanted: because the information did not leak out? https://apnews.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Dan Atkinson / WHDH-TV: ‘No city anymore’: Mariupol survivors take train to safety
Christopher Miller / @christopherjm: My friends and colleagues @EMaloletka and Mystyslav Chernov have made it out of Mariupol and are safe. And just in the nick of time, according to their harrowing account. They did incredible work there, showing the world what Russia's doing. Read this: https://apnews.com/...
Jessica Elgot / @jessicaelgot: Incredible bravery https://twitter.com/...
@pwnallthethings: This is heartbreaking and important and everyone should read it https://apnews.com/...
Andrew Kimmel / @andrewkimmel: The likely last journalists in Mariupol have been evacuated. Painful to think of the horrors of those left behind & how the truth will get out. Regardless, read this piece as Russia had these journalists on a kill list & were furiously working to discredit their work. https://twitter.com/...
Aaron Blake / @aaronblake: AP journalist on Russians targeting them in Mariupol: “The Russians were hunting us down. They had a list of names, including ours, and they were closing in ... “Suddenly at dawn a dozen soldiers burst in: 'Where are the journalists, for fuck's sake?' ” https://apnews.com/...
@ap: “We were the last journalists in Mariupol. Now there are none.” The remarkable story of how an @AP team hid from Russian troops in a hospital, wearing surgical scrubs, to continue telling the world of the city's destruction. https://apnews.com/...
Mark Austin / @markaustintv: The power of journalism is seen both in their original piece .... And Russia's reaction to it .... https://twitter.com/...
@yamphoto: What a incredible tale of courage, of humility, & of anguish in Mariupol by these AP journalists. Thank you for your commitment and perseverance Mstyslav and Evgeniy. Relieved to know you both are safe. You lit a candle in the abyss and you showed the way. https://apnews.com/...
Natasha Bertrand / @natashabertrand: AP journalists say they were being hunted down by Russia in Mariupol. “They had a list of names, including ours, and they were closing in. We had been documenting the siege by Russian troops...and were the only international journalists left in the city.” https://apnews.com/...
CBS News: Devastation on Ukraine's eastern coast, where injured kids narrowly escaped Russian shelling
Colm Quinn / Foreign Policy: Ukraine Refuses to Surrender Mariupol
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Elahe Izadi / Washington Post:
How two Ukrainian AP journalists documented the war's devastation while managing sporadic contact with editors and dealing with Russian government smears — If it were not for two Associated Press journalists in the besieged city of Mariupol, the world might not have learned what has been happening …
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Guy Chazan / Financial Times: ‘Hell on earth’: survivors recount the assault on Mariupol | Free to read
Max Seddon / @maxseddon: Even by the devastating standards of Russia's war in Ukraine, what's going on in Mariupol right now is pure horror. @GuyChazan spoke to survivors - and his story is free to read https://www.ft.com/...
Miriam Elder / @miriamelder: Proud to highlight the work of @EMaloletka + @mstyslav9, who have told the world about Mariupol. As @JuliePace says, “Covering this is personal for them, and they have felt a real responsibility to make sure that the world is seeing what's happening.” https://www.vanityfair.com/...
Natasha Bertrand / @natashabertrand: Among the most horrifying accounts of the war to date. “People are now so hungry they are killing stray dogs for food...Witnesses depicted post-apocalyptic scenes of stray dogs eating the remains of bombing victims who lay unburied on the street.” https://www.ft.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Miriam Elder / @miriamelder: “Their photographs are not only a record of the utter destruction, but a direct rebuttal to the Kremlin's propaganda,” writes @charlottetklein https://www.vanityfair.com/...
Peter Weber / The Week: Russia is sorting Mariupol ‘evacuees’ at ‘filtration camps,’ based on social media posts, Ukrainians say
Max Seddon / @maxseddon: Russia has given Ukraine until 5am to surrender Mariupol, after which it says it'll let the 130,000 remaining civilians leave. The language it uses for Kyiv's forces - “nationalists,” “foreign mercenaries,” “bandits” - leaves little doubt about what Russia has in store for them.
@vanityfair: Photographs taken in Mariupol by Evgeniy Maloletka and Mstyslav Chernov are not only a record of the utter destruction, but a direct rebuttal to the Kremlin's propaganda. “Covering this is personal for them,” @AP executive editor @JuliePace tells V.F. https://vntyfr.com/A9gKA06
Yuri Kageyama / @yurikageyama: My colleagues at @AP So proud to be able to tweet that. And praying for their safety, their continued great work and for peace. How two journalists managed to share the horror stories of Mariupol with the world https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Brian Steinberg / Variety:
Media-measurement giant Nielsen says it has turned down a bid by a private equity consortium, after reports of a potential acquisition caused its stock to soar — Nielsen Holdings PLC has turned down a bid by a private-equity consortium to buy the media-measurement giant …
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Axios, MediaPost, insideradio.com, @danprimack, @mediaevan, Adweek, The Wrap, Deadline, Barrett Media and Hollywood Reporter, more at Techmeme »
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Sara Fischer / Axios: Nielsen rejects private takeover bid
Wayne Friedman / MediaPost: Nielsen Rejects $9B Offer From Private Equity Consortium
Dan Primack / @danprimack: One of most interesting aspects of Nielsen rejecting Elliott buyout, and saying board was unanimous, is that Elliott has a board rep. https://twitter.com/...
Evan DeSimone / @mediaevan: “Nielsen's stock jumped more than 40% last week...a signal that the company's board may be more optimistic than is the market.” https://www.axios.com/...
Rosemary Rossi / The Wrap: Nielsen Rejects Bid by Private Equity Firms at $15 Billion Valuation
Alex Sherman / CNBC:
A look at the fallout between Bob Chapek and Bob Iger as Disney restructures for a world where streaming dominates and legacy distribution models fade away — Bob Iger, left, and Bob Chapek of Disney — April 12, 2020. That's the day former Disney CEO Bob Iger's relationship …
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Ariel Zilber / New York Post: Disney to hold staff ‘town hall’ meeting over 'Don't Say Gay' controversy
Kelly Evans / @kellycnbc: “Kyncl told Iger if he wanted Disney to start trading at Netflix-like multiples...[he] needed to run operations like a tech company. Google separated its content and distribution divisions. The same roles didn't live within smaller groups...” https://www.cnbc.com/...
@great_katzby: Drama inside the Mouse House during a period of potential transition. Great deep dive. https://twitter.com/...
@ropedropchris: “Chapek, meanwhile, has a harder exterior and at times, according to colleagues, struggles with emotional intelligence” understatement of the goddamn century https://twitter.com/...
Anthony DeRosa / @anthony: The interesting bit here is how powerful Kareem Daniel has become under Chapek's new structure at Disney, arguably making Daniel the most important person in media https://www.cnbc.com/...
Tommy Hawkins / @tommyhawkins: There is a huge story here, that has absolutely little to do with them falling out. It appears Chapek is almost creating another Strategic Planning Division with the P&L set up, and we all know how well that worked out for Eisner. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@dsnynewscast: These excerpts paint a very contentious picture of Bob Iger's relationship with Chapek at the end of 2021. Chapek has annoyed Hollywood, his own employees/creative divisions and now his very knowledgeable predecessor. Not a smart move. Definitely give the article a read!!! https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Howard Mittman / @hsmittman: A great piece of reporting from @sherman4949 that is 100% worth your time. https://twitter.com/...
Francisco Olivera / @francoolivera: “...Chapek's No. 1 priority — setting up Disney for a digital world where streaming dominates and legacy distribution models fade away — is exactly what Iger believed in. That adds an element of sorrow to the men's failed relationship. Their end goals are the same.” https://twitter.com/...
@madnesskingdom: Comtinuing the long tradition of Disney CEOs hating each other https://twitter.com/...
Jennifer Elias / @jenn_elias: Incredibly detailed piece by @sherman4949 on Disney CEO Bob Chapek's falling out with ex-boss Bob Iger. https://www.cnbc.com/...
Nicholas Jackson / @nbj914: New to me in here: A 2018 meeting between Bob Iger and @rkyncl, YouTube's chief business officer, likely influenced a lot of internal structuring decisions as Disney started leaning into streaming. https://twitter.com/...
@orangegrove55: Interesting article. It kind of confirms that Chapek was Iger's choice. Not only was Chapek promoted to CEO, but was also promoted several times on Iger's watch. Interesting how it appears that Iger regrets choosing him now. https://twitter.com/...
Alex Morris / @tsoh_investing: “Ideally, Chapek would like consumers to experience a more unified digital Disney experience... some employees informally speak of this grand challenge of unifying Disney technology and experiences as ‘One Disney.’” https://twitter.com/...
Kai Ryssdal / @kairyssdal: Really good piece - about much more than just the two names in the headlines. h/t @CardiffGarcia Disney CEO Chapek under pressure, at odds with ex-boss Bob Iger https://www.cnbc.com/...
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Cardiff Garcia / @cardiffgarcia: On the surface this story is about the strained separation between Iger and Chapek, but mainly it's a terrific piece about organizational change — and how tricky if is for a currently dominant company to keep pace with anticipated economic shifts https://www.cnbc.com/...
Brett Schafer / @ccm_brett: fantastic “people familiar with the matter” quotes in here https://www.cnbc.com/...
Julia Alexander / @loudmouthjulia: Fantastic reporting from Alex. An astounding look inside Disney under Chapek, and maybe even more importantly, Kareem Daniel. https://twitter.com/...
Scott Gustin / @scottgustin: Another *fascinating* story about what is happening at Disney right now — this time diving into the Chapek/Iger relationship. Good stuff from @sherman4949. https://twitter.com/...
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Wall Street Journal:
Disney CEO's initial neutrality toward Florida's Don't Say Gay bill worsened staff and fan resentment towards him amid theme park cost cuts and a falling stock — The Disney chief's plan to stay out of politics backfired in the case of Florida's Parental Rights In Education bill …
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Brian Stelter / CNN: Disney braces for further walkouts as employees express discontent with CEO Bob Chapek
@wsj: Disney had a new policy on public political stances: Don't take them. That blew up in its face. https://www.wsj.com/...
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: Agreeing to “stay out of politics” works only if politics agrees to stay out of you. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Ben Fritz / @benfritz: Things aren't going smoothly at Disney for CEO “Bob Paycheck.” https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Erich Schwartzel / @erichschwartzel: Last year, Disney called a meeting of Parks employees angry they were being moved from California to Florida, and asked them for possible solutions to their problems. “Fire Bob Chapek” was one answer. Inside Disney's turmoil, w/ @RWhelanWSJ & @JBFlint https://www.wsj.com/...
Rob Price / @robaeprice: Disney CEO Bob Chapek's allies say “his unique perspective ... will allow him to more effectively roll out new ways of doing business.” Apparently this includes forcing 2,000 people to move across the country for corporate tax breaks. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Liz Rappaport / @lizrappaport: Incredible reporting by @RWhelanWSJ @erichschwartzel @JBFlint on Disney CEO Bob Chapek's tanking goodwill among employees, constituents after Florida bill flub. Adds to ire over cost cuts, low share price and poor rapport w/ creators. https://www.wsj.com/...
Joe Flint / @jbflint: Disney CEO Bob Chapek and his team would like to move on from Florida but company isn't letting them. Conflict over Florida bill adds to discontent over cost cuts and a falling share price. W/@RWhelanWSJ and @erichschwartzel https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
Max Tani / Politico:
Sources: Reuters staff are frustrated by Reuters' partnership with Tass, a Russian wire service that's published unverified information about the war in Ukraine — Employees at one of the most well-known news wire services are privately fuming over their company's ongoing partnership …
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Max Tani / @maxwelltani: New: Some staff at Reuters are increasingly concerned about the organization's ongoing partnership with Tass, the Russian state-owned news organization which has parroted (at best) dubious Kremlin talking points in recent days https://www.politico.com/...
Melaniya Podolyak / @melaniepodolyak: The amount of times we have warned about this relationship is ridiculous. But it took almost a month of bombing for Reuters to start noticing the problem. https://twitter.com/...
Rasmus Larsen / FlatpanelsHD:
Apple has removed the option to buy and rent movies from the Apple TV app on Android TV and Google TV; users can still access their iTunes library — Apple has removed to option to buy and rent movies from the Apple TV app (iTunes) on Android TV and Google TV with the latest app update.
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Phillip Tracy / Gizmodo: Apple Just Nerfed Its Own App to Screw Over Google TV Users
Chris Welch / The Verge: Apple TV app on Android TV no longer allows rentals, purchases, or subscriptions
John Gruber / Daring Fireball: Apple TV App on Android TV and Google TV No Longer Lets Users Buy or Rent Movies
Nilay Patel / @reckless: Turning computers into endless shopping malls with tedious fee disputes has paid for a lot of Ferraris, but down here on the ground all that's happened is a bunch of apps with annoying user experiences by design
Nilay Patel / @reckless: There was a meeting where someone at Apple was like, “Okay, let's reduce the functionality of the Apple TV app to avoid Google's platform fees” without even a hint of irony https://twitter.com/...
Hartley Charlton / MacRumors: Apple Removes Ability to Buy and Rent in Update to Apple TV App for Android TV and Google TV
Ben Schoon / 9to5Google: Apple TV app for Android TV and Google TV can no longer buy content, still has access to iTunes library
Megan Graham / Wall Street Journal:
Adtech company TripleLift will acquire Zurich-based 1plusX, which helps clients reach audiences using first-party data, for around $150M — Switzerland-based business helps companies use first-party data, which they have collected themselves—an increasingly important strategy amid tightening privacy regulations
Max Seddon / @maxseddon:
Russia's Channel One responds to Marina Ovsyannikova's on-air protest, saying she is a British spy who “betrayed [her] country and all of us ... for a bonus” — Channel One has finally responded to Marina Ovsyannikova's on-air protest. Kirill Kleimyonov, head of the news division, accuses her of being a British spy. He said she has “betrayed [her] country and all of us ... coldly, duplicitously, for a bonus.” https://twitter.com/...
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Jeff Goodell / @jeffgoodell: Whenever I see clips of Russian TV — so slickly produced, such sophisticated graphics— it reminds me again that technological progress is not a moral force. It's just a tool to make human stupidity — or wisdom— more powerful. https://twitter.com/...
Kevin Rothrock / @kevinrothrock: Channel One broadcasts uncensored images of Ovsyannikova's antiwar poster. Again. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@paulachertok: 😬 It took a whole week to come up w/ this genius lie? Anti-war protester Marina Ovsyannikova is a British spy?? She really blew her cover, then, didn't she, by going on Kremlin TV's most watched news show. Looks like Putin's info war is going about as well as the one in Ukraine. https://twitter.com/...
Jon Sopel / @jonsopel: If she was a British spy, I'd say she's blown her cover pretty spectacularly, which is not something one tends to see in the ABC of spycraft #absurd https://twitter.com/...
Julia Ioffe / @juliaioffe: An extremely dark response https://twitter.com/...
Lexi Lonas / The Hill:
NYT editorial board is criticized for “both-sidesism” after announcing a project to identify threats to free speech from the political left and right in the US — The New York Times editorial board in an op-ed Friday announced a project in the upcoming months where they will identify threats …
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Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: The NYT editorial board thinks “America Has a Free Speech Problem” - and presents a purely mythical idea of what “free speech” is, an a-historical tale of the country's past, and a narrative that is detached from the current reality of the political conflict. Some thoughts: 1/ https://twitter.com/...
Will Bunch / The Philadelphia Inquirer: America has a New York Times-doesn't-get-the-First Amendment problem
Amanda Marcotte / Salon: What the New York Times doesn't get about free speech and “cancel culture”
Will Bunch / @will_bunch: It's pretty alarming the NYT lacks a fundamental understanding of Americans' free-speech rights. Here's what's worse: The paper's unsupported alarm over a left-wing ‘cancel culture’ only fuels the actual war on your rights - from the right My new column https://www.inquirer.com/...
@nycsouthpaw: The NYT editorial board collectively misunderstands freedom of expression. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: I've wondered, my own self, why this NYT editorial promoting the false “cancel culture” panic has upset me so much. I think part of it is this: I have fucking LOVED the NYT. Worked there. When it's great, nothing comes close. But it has fundamentally misread this moment. 1/
Corey Robin / @coreyrobin: 1/ Folks responding to the NYT editorial by claiming that shaming and shunning pose ZERO implications for freedom of speech, that allowing people to shame and shun is simply part of free speech: I don't think you really believe that as categorically as you're claiming here.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: Then we have this. Survey design 101: If you ask people if something is a problem, they will tell you it's a problem. This is called acquiescence bias - and it's usually discussed with agree-disagree questions, but it's also an issue with one-sided scales like this. https://twitter.com/...
@popehat: Dear @nytimes editorial board: regarding your op-ed today, what is the source of this right? Is it God-given? If so what's the scriptural source? Constitutional? Under what clause and recognized in what cases? /1 https://twitter.com/...
Jacob Mchangama / @jmchangama: 2/ The angry reactions to the recent @nytimes editorial on #freespeech suggests that many NYT subscribers and substantial parts of Twitter would prefer the NYT's 1917 definition over it's 2022 version of free speech https://www.nytimes.com/... think
@coreypein: I submit that those of us invested in this conversation might get better results complaining less about “The New York Times” saying this or that, and instead putting scrutiny on A.G. Sulzberger's special role. https://twitter.com/...
Matt Stoller / @matthewstoller: A lot of people during and after the Obama era made their careers on a highly obnoxious and judgmental way of doing politics. The NYT is saying their gravy train is over. Hence the screeching. It's de facto an announcement of mass layoffs coming over the next few years.
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: “By the time the Times finally realizes what side it's on, it may be too late.” Read @Will_Bunch on that statement of worldview the New York Times published this week under guise of a editorial. https://www.inquirer.com/...
Peter A. Shulman / @pashulman: So there has been much discussion, and mostly criticism of the NYT's editorial the other day about “free speech,” especially its opening paragraph appealing earnestly to a right that has never before actually existed https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Ross Barkan / @rossbarkan: My view on this is simple: the right is worse than the left on a lot of these issues but there absolutely is a censorious culture in elite left spaces. Cancel culture is real: but only for the powerless, not the powerful. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Bill Grueskin / @bgrueskin: “The vagueness of the allegations against the left in the Times editorial contrast with specificity about free speech assaults from the right, including some 175 bills limiting what instructors can teach or what students can learn” Via @Will_Bunch https://www.inquirer.com/...
Leonard Pitts, Jr / @leonardpittsjr1: I usually try to avoid attacking peers in this space, but really, @NYTimes this is an embarrassingly ignorant statement. There is NO right to say what you want without being called on it. Only without being arrested for it. You're the “newspaper of record.” Do better. https://twitter.com/...
Niall Ferguson / @nfergus: Good: @nytimes belatedly notices that we have a “free speech problem.” Bad: editorial board doesn't seem to understand the relevant law or history. Editorial here: https://www.nytimes.com/... Good digest of why it's muddled here: https://whyevolutionistrue.com/ ...
Margaret Sullivan / @sulliview: It was the editorial that launched a thousand takes, as @Will_Bunch notes, but you'll still want to read his, in @PhillyInquirer https://www.inquirer.com/...
@sorayamcdonald: “Is it a coincidence the phrase “cancel culture” was invented when systems of patriarchy and white supremacy were suddenly the things being ‘shamed and shunned?’” https://www.inquirer.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: “Cancel culture very much exists. The right invented it. A century ago they fired people trying to organize unions,” a commenter writes. They still do. I bet more people are fired for organizing unions than for any other kind of speech. https://presswatchers.org/...
Pradheep J. Shanker / @neoavatara: And yet, when the paper marginalized people internally that disagreed with the liberal majority, people like this stayed silent. They really don't have much credibility on this issue. https://twitter.com/...
Maia / @monetaristmaia: The “without being shamed or shunned” is doing a lot of work because like, you're free to say whatever you want without going to jail, but people are also free to say you're a stupid asshat. Being shamed is also a form of speech, after all https://twitter.com/...
Sean Spicer / @seanspicer: amazing that a publication that has been at the forefront of quelling speech and opinions on right has the gall to print this Opinion | America Has a Free Speech Problem - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/...
Eric Boehlert / @ericboehlert: I wonder who drew the short straw at NYT and had to write that unsigned atrocity https://twitter.com/...
@derfbackderf: More fallout from @nytopinion jaw-dropping opinion piece on “free speech.” At the end of my daily newspaper career in the early 90s, I loudly stated that papers should ax their editorial page. This, from a former political cartoonist. https://presswatchers.org/... via @froomkin
Christopher Robinson / @manunderbridge: Dude disagrees with NYT oped about cancel culture, which he thinks is fake, a moral panic, then calls for editorial board to resign for publishing said oped. You're doing it right now, buddy. You are cancel culture. https://twitter.com/...
Corey Stoughton / @coreystoughton: Who is saying this? People are rightly mocking the NYT editorial board for calling “freedom from being shamed or shunned” a “fundamental right” of Americans. Because it's just not and they should know better. https://twitter.com/...
Elad Nehorai / @eladnehorai: These arguments always, always ignore power imbalances. There is a difference between shaming on social media (difficult as it may be) and shaming when it comes from the powerful. These exist in two different realms, and it's disingenuous to pretend the separation isn't there. https://twitter.com/...
@yottapoint: I am genuinely curious as to how the NYT editorial board believes all Americans always had the right to say anything without facing any consequences for their words. What American history book is this completely bizarre claim based on? https://twitter.com/...
Nausicaa Renner / @nausjcaa: I think the NYT's mistake is to view the alternative to both sides-ing as being actively liberal, which they don't want. But the actual alternative to embracing both sides as legitimate is to take a cold clinical eye to everything (which btw is why I love working at The Intercept https://twitter.com/...
Itai Sher / @itaisher: I like this thread, but one nuance I would add is that it is possible that shaming and shunning are free speech and free association but also have implications for free speech. https://twitter.com/...
Corey Robin / @coreyrobin: One set of responses/QTs of this thread are people claiming, yes, I do believe that shunning and shaming pose zero implications for free speech. Another set of responses are people claiming no one believes this. https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Picciuto / @epicciuto: If it's raining, and someone is screaming that a tornado is destroying their homes, you tend to focus less on acknowledging that rain is bad than you do on that their homes is not being destroyed. https://twitter.com/...
Paul Sherman / @paulmsherman: I have resisted commenting on this editorial, but it's about freedom of speech and has broken everyone's brain, so here goes. The central point of NYT's op-ed—that we need to be more tolerant of bad opinions—comes directly from Chapter 1 of On Liberty. https://presswatchers.org/...
Jason Linkins / @dceiver: pretty fundamental rule of writing is that you have to define your terms; I can't imagine a getting away with a sentence like this in the tenth grade, let alone the most important newspaper in America https://twitter.com/...
Eric Reinhart / @_eric_reinhart: Old liberal fantasy: best argument wins in an inevitable arc toward justice. New liberal fantasy: no one wins or loses; we all just voice opinions. Justice is giving all voices equal space. Both depend on disavowal of power, ideology, & the unevenly borne effects of discourse. https://twitter.com/...
David Kaye / @davidakaye: americans, the times says, don't face Russia's “strangling of free speech through government censorship”. well maybe. but what are 'don't say gay', anti-CRT, anti-protest laws, journalist arrests and other state restrictions if not govt censorship? https://twitter.com/...
@joyannreid: “It is true that white elite men face a little more scrutiny today than in the past. This has caused quite a bit of anxiety, which is what is really animating much of the ‘cancel culture’ moral panic.” Excellent thread on the @nytimes both sidesy speech “crisis” editorial. https://twitter.com/...
Scott Lemieux / @lemieuxlgm: I keep staring at this sentence in amazement. “We don't know what cancel culture is but we know it's bad” pretty much typifies the total lack of precision that is fundamental to most of these Free Speech In Crisis thumbsuckers https://twitter.com/...
Conor Friedersdorf / @conor64: The New York Times editorial board makes errors from time to time. And makes what many of us regard as untenable positive liberty claims from time to time. But most of those don't generate calls for the authors to resign. Interesting that this editorial has. https://twitter.com/...
@rudepundit: If you ever want to explain both-siderism to someone, use this from today's @nytimes editorial on free speech. The right is passing laws to literally make speech illegal, but the left makes you feel sad if you use the n-word. See? Both sides! https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: It has fundamentally failed the moment. The paper decided not to defend liberal democracy. Everything since then - including yesterday - perhaps the worst single day in the paper's history - adds to that stain. https://twitter.com/...
Karen Attiah / @karenattiah: “Cancel culture"* anxiety is not about free speech. It's about status anxiety. It's not a coincidence that “cancel culture” is now a pejorative after #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter targeted the existing sexist + racist structures in America. We are in a power struggle.
Ted Lieu / @tedlieu: The fundamental problem with this preachy @nytopinion editorial is the assumption that there are both sides to everything. That is false. The earth is not flat. COVID vaccines don't have microchips. Trump did not win the 2020 election. I will not coddle folks who have dumb views. https://twitter.com/...
Franklin Leonard / @franklinleonard: This is an absolute embarrassment. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Suggesting that wiser and more open-minded editors be put in charge of an essential public forum is not canceling people for speech, it's an earnest attempt to widen the public dialogue 1/2 https://presswatchers.org/...
Jay Rosen / @jayrosen_nyu: I agree: misread the moment. They want it to be a normal conflict between left and right, so that their distancing tactics still work. They do not work. The centrist contrarian space — with its imaginary midpoint between extremes — is refuge-seeking, not truth-seeking behavior. https://twitter.com/...
Sherrilyn Ifill / @sifill_ldf: Thank you @tzimmer_history for this excellent THREAD laying out in detail what the NYT Editorial Board gets so distressingly and irresponsibly wrong in its presentation of “America's Free Speech” problem. https://twitter.com/...
Eric Alterman / @eric_alterman: That and an odd bit of partisan both-sidesing, conflating the left's engagement in criticism with the right's leveraging the law to control speech, one of which is more of a risk to the First Amendment than the other. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Kevin M. Kruse / @kevinmkruse: This whole thread on how the @nytimes is badly misreading this moment. https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: As the right has become more explicitly an anti-Democratic ethnonationalist movement, the NYT (unlike, say, WaPo) has seen its fundamental duty to be a paper for “both sides.” It sees its fundamental flaw in 2016 as not grokking the Trump fan. 2/
Philip Bump / @pbump: It's not just that the Times editorial about “free speech” was a rhetorical mess. It also pretended there was some great mystery where none exists. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Innumerable Aidan Comerfords / @aidanctweets: My good, privileged man, often the only weapons minorities have against Establishment bigotry is “shunning and shaming,” like bows in a quiver, against their nuclear arsenal, and “cancel culture,” and this NYT article, is the Establishment's attempt to disarm them. 1/ https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: If you doubt for a moment The Times' turn to sympathy with the white-right, let this end those doubts: a yes-but attack on the left for making white people uncomfortable. Here is white victimhood, naked to behold. 5/ https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: ICYMI: My response to the New York Times running a pathetic and irrational and 2,500 word piece on “cancel culture.” https://www.salon.com/...
Keith Olbermann / @keitholbermann: You're goddamned right “America has a free speech problem” - the @nytimes editorial board has lost the plot. There's freedom to have ANY opinion. There is NOT freedom to have ANY opinion without consequences. THAT is ‘yelling fire in a crowded theater.’ https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@dynamicsymmetry: I also find it much easier to respond to positions I basically make up in order to respond to them https://twitter.com/...
Killjoy McCoy / @letsgoayo: how are you a professor of political science and you don't understand that there is more than one (1) person in the world? Let me help: If one person speaks freely... ...and nobody is allowed to “shame” them... ...then other people don't have free speech. https://twitter.com/...
Philip Bump / @pbump: That Times editorial about “free speech” was not very good for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is that it applies a bizarre frame to an obvious set of issues that's being exploited for political purposes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
@moeednj: Very well thought out Analysis & Message from the Editorial Board of New York Times! this explains how over the years American society & politics has lots its ability to “express freely” - But Must Read in India & Pakistan! https://www.nytimes.com/...
Mikki Kendall / @karnythia: Freedom of speech has never been from consequences. The fact that the consequences are no longer one sided doesn't mean free speech is under attack. It means if you dish it, you better be ready to take it. https://twitter.com/...
Dr Jordan B Peterson / @jordanbpeterson: Yes and it's your bloody fault in no small part @nytimes Opinion | America Has a Free Speech Problem - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/...
Brent Toderian / @brenttoderian: This is a really important thread. #freespeach #CancelCulture https://twitter.com/...
Walter Shaub / @waltshaub: I'm still trying to get my mind around the notion that a major newspaper's editorial board thinks that having your ideas liked is a fundamental human right and that the denial of social acceptance is a more urgent crisis than the rise of fascism.
@theradr: Like, we can talk about what is the most productive way to have a public conversation but WTF is this FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT to say what I want without FEAR of SHAME — show me in the text of the Constitution where it says that. Show me.
@theradr: Also the person receiving pushback is the one who decides if they experience that as fear or shame. I've been slammed in public many times—unkindly—& I receive it either as a helpful correction delivered in a way that humbles me or as a POV I disagree with. Shame is optional.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez / @aoc: Imagine living in the US today, where the #1 source of domestic terrorism is far-right groups(per FBI!), books about slavery are getting banned, parents are criminalized for trans kids, yet asserting the 1st amendment is about protecting bigots from feeling embarrassed in public.
@usconst_amend_i: A free country where people have the right to speak without the fear of being shamed or shunned is an oxymoron, a paradox, something that belongs in Catch-22. Some people want to use their speech to shame and shun, and if you deny them that right, it's not a free country. https://twitter.com/...
Christina Sommers / @chsommers: The NYTimes editorial board finally acknowledges the existence of a censorious & stifling “cancel culture.” This acknowledgment infuriates cancel-culture-deniers @AdamDavidson @stevesilberman & @froomkin who now demand the board be cancelled. 😬 https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Moore / @theauthorguy: I would add to the Free Speech dialogue today based on the NY Times Board Editorial: https://www.nytimes.com/... (Sorry if you can't access it, I guess it's not free.) The Problem, as the NY Times frames it, is that people are not free from criticism for what they say.
Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux / @ameliatd: I want “If you ask people if something is a problem, they will tell you it's a problem” printed on a t-shirt. https://twitter.com/...
Geoffrey Skelley / @geoffreyvs: So many poorly framed questions in this poll that got the answers the editorial needed to supposedly back up its argument. https://twitter.com/...
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: Okay, I have to stop because I need to get on with life/work. But I encourage you to look at the full poll. It's really interesting! And it doesn't necessarily support what NYT says it does - at least, that's not the full story here. https://int.nyt.com/...
Katie Mack / @astrokatie: @nycsouthpaw It reminds me of the dichotomy in that old Margaret Atwood quote: “Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.” Being afraid of being laughed at and being afraid of being killed are really not at all the same problem.
@nycsouthpaw: This goes further than the typical “speech for me, but not for thee” sophistry that portrays criticism or “shaming” as a denial of free speech. It suggests “shunning”—just quietly refusing to associate with the avowed bigot or the holocaust denier—is a breach of their rights.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: A thread on why the NYTimes op-ed is a bad use of polling. To be clear, I am talking about the USE of it; this is not about the fine folks at Siena. The poll is used to say OMG, LOOK, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM. Here's why that's a bad use of the polling:
Katie Mack / @astrokatie: @nycsouthpaw The fact that they did a bunch of polls asking about whether people kept quiet for fear of “retaliation or harsh criticism” but did not separate the results by WHICH of those things was specifically feared is a great example of entirely missing out on the important issues here.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: Final note - and this one is praise - good for all involved for releasing the question wording and order. That is crucial to survey transparency and good practice.
Natalie Jackson / @nataliemj10: We start here. People are saying they “hold their tongue.” Okay. I grew up with the attitude that you don't talk about politics or religion in polite company. (lol that I study both - that lesson sank in, eh?) Filtering is a way of getting along in the world. This is not new. https://twitter.com/...
Christopher Ingraham / @_cingraham: @AstroKatie @nycsouthpaw “Retaliation” is such a bad survey word. So much vagueness there - what kind of retaliation? And from who? The whole thing's just a trainwreck
William K. Wolfrum / @wolfrum: Cancel Culture is like Wordle. It was all anyone could talk about for a while but then the NY Times got involved and a lot of people started realizing it was a waste of time and effort.
@kagrox: My shunning is a sincerely held religious belief! You're canceling my cancel culture, and it's religious bigotry to do so!
Ari Cohn / @aricohn: I'm just terribly surprised that the NYT editorial board published a scandalously stupid piece. https://twitter.com/...
Kai Ryssdal / @kairyssdal: What Ken said... https://twitter.com/...
@govtrack: The @nytimes is out with quite possibly their worst editorial ever saying that no one should ever be held accountable for mistakes. Let's make up for this by strengthening all of our efforts to hold elected officials accountable for their words and actions. https://twitter.com/...
Helen Kennedy / @helenkennedy: I guess the NYT thinks this tweet violates their made-up right not to be shamed for dumb opinions. https://twitter.com/...
Julian Sanchez / @normative: I agree with all of this, but also think in a healthy liberal culture there's a fairly limited domain of views we should treat as beyond the pale & best responded to by condemning the people who utter them rather than engaging with civil counterarguments. https://twitter.com/...
@popehat: /6 You posit this as a fundamental right of citizens of a free country. Are there remedies for its breach, punishments for breaching it? If I shun and shame you for this editorial am I violating your rights? And, I take it, I don't have the right to do that, in this free country?
Tim Carvell / @timcarvell: @Popehat “What they meant was...” We know what they meant. Their problem is that they accidentally said it.
Gabriel Malor / @gabrielmalor: I'm not sure what “mask is fully off now,” but White is correct to probe NYTimes' claim that there is a fundamental right to be free of shaming or shunning for speech. There is no such right, and White's thread, which is worth reading in full, simply explores the concept. https://twitter.com/...
@popehat: /11 The legally, morally, and philosophically incoherent error is to try to invent a categorical distinction between speech and response speech — to believe the First Speaker is privileged and should be encouraged and nurtured, but critics held at bay.
@popehat: /2 Since you say it's not merely a right, but a FUNDAMENTAL right, what historical and philosophical writings would you cite for its existence? Not a mere right to speech, mind you — a right to speak “without fear of being shamed or shunned.”
@popehat: /4 Given that the Times' editorial board believes this fundamental right exists, does the Times conduct its personnel affairs according to it? Are NYT journalists protected from being shamed or shunned at the Times?
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: Teachers, journalists, newspaper publishers, lawyers, architects, engineers across the country are being fired and losing PUBLIC contracts for refusing to give up their right to free speech. https://www.aclu.org/...
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: The @nytimes managed to run a massive editorial allegedly dissecting free speech issues ailing our country and completely missed Americans actually losing their livelihoods over political speech that the governments doesn't like, i.e. advocating for Palestinian human rights.
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: The @ACLU and @CAIRNational have launched numerous lawsuits in Kansas, Arizona, Texas, Arizona and Arkansas on behalf of a diverse group of public contractors. So far, they've won all of their cases. https://www.aclu.org/...
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: In addition, copy cat versions of these laws are now spreading across the country that target those advocating for climate justice and sensible gun control laws. https://www.nprillinois.org/ ...
@popehat: It's really kind of grim the way people are saying “well, maybe it wasn't expressed perfectly, but...” like it was an essay by your eighth-grade nephew and not the editorial board of the New York Fucking Times. Resist the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: You want some big numbers? 232 bills have been introduced attempting to criminalize or punish Americans engaged in advocacy for Palestinian human rights. 33 states, including liberal NY and California, have laws in the books TODAY. https://legislation.palestinelegal.org/
Julia Bacha / @juliabacha: Despite consistent defeats in courts, States are refusing to strike down the laws, choosing instead to “tweak” them so that the plaintiffs lose standing. https://www.texastribune.org/ ...
Rick Hasen / @rickhasen: From someone who has thought deeply about free expression around the world: https://twitter.com/...
@giladedelman: This is not a rhetorical question—I would like to hear people's answers to this https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Kosseff / @jkosseff: Exactly this. It's fine to debate civility and cancel culture, but it is incredibly disappointing to see so many people fail to distinguish those issues from government censorship. (hint: only one could result in a speaker going to prison) https://twitter.com/...
David Kaye / @davidakaye: yes, the editorial is critical of state restrictions but for some reason can't just call it what it is - a systematic political assault on the right to freedom of expression. here! in america! https://twitter.com/...
Andrea Grimes / @andreagrimes: < taps the sign > https://twitter.com/...
David Roberts / @drvolts: It is, among other things, just *embarrassing*. That editorial in the NYT is just flat fucking embarrassing. I know the people involved are too up their own rear ends to realize they should be embarrassed, but they really, really should.
Lili Loofbourow / @millicentsomer: look, being shamed *is* painful! so is (for example) having to “objectively” debate whether your existence rises to the category of full personhood against people who have never had theirs questioned—or whether or not you should be forced to give birth.
James Gleick / @jamesgleick: I was going to complain about this astonishingly bad editorial, but @tzimmer_history is more patient than I am, and instead of complaining he eviscerates it. 🧵 https://twitter.com/...
Sean Carroll / @seanmcarroll: A good thread about a bad NYT editorial. Threats to free speech are real and should be fought against. But much of the current hoopla is about certain people who used to be the *only* ones able to speak freely, now having to think about other perspectives, and they don't like it. https://twitter.com/...
Teri Kanefield / @teri_kanefield: Sort of funny that the NY Times editorial seems to think “free speech” means “freedom to say whatever you want without fear of ridicule” and all I want to do is ridicule that editorial. https://twitter.com/...
@shelleypowers: @politicalelle Not what happened. Too bad you can't get anything right. https://yaledailynews.com/...
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: In fact, the editorial actively obscures the threat from the Right, assuring us that, unlike in Russia, actual government censorship is “not the kind of threat to freedom of expression that Americans face.” Then what are all these state-level GOP education bills about? 16/ https://twitter.com/...
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: Crucially, the editorial itself is proof of this, uhm, imbalance of empirical evidence - it cites the state-level Republican assault and never comes up with anything from the “Left” that would be remotely equivalent. But that has no influence on how the problem is framed. 15/
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history: Unfortunately, this editorial matters. People don't shrug this off as “Just one editorial” - they read it as “the NYT says...” And with that, the idea that America is facing a free speech crisis, that cancel culture is real, and that *both sides* are at fault becomes dogma. /end
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: Anyway when I made my video about this a few weeks ago I thought all the Republican anti-speech efforts were going to make the debate irrelevant. But literally nothing is going to stop elites from writing this same article another 100 times so enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/...
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: Nothing makes me pessimistic about the future of the U.S. quite like this. “What were you doing when Republicans were passing a wave of voter- and speech-suppression laws?” “Well son, I mostly wrote how the people opposing those efforts were irritating to me personally.”
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: The idea that these two phenomena — random people on social media making bad arguments and elected officials banning speech — require equal amounts of media coverage is absurd. https://twitter.com/...
Bill Grueskin / @bgrueskin: If an editorial has been “expressed badly,” that's the journalistic equivalent of leaving 5 sponges inside the abdomen of an appendicitis patient. https://twitter.com/...
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: False. America *is* experiencing a free speech crackdown with real consequences for ordinary people. Yes somehow our elite media is still whining about people being mean to them on Twitter. Get a fucking grip you weirdos! https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: It's almost 2 pm EDT and I'm still trying to get my head around the *Editorial Board of The New York Times* not understanding free speech in the United States. Folks, if you ever needed a neon light signpost of why we're here, this is it.
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: Utterly meaningless number. Huge majorities of Americans once thought frivolous lawsuits were out of control and that their children had a 50-50 chance of being kidnapped by a stranger. This is evidence of a moral panic, not that the panic is justified. https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: In a piece about threats to free speech, only 413 words out of over 2,500 are dedicated to actual government officials banning books and silencing educators. The rest of piece is complaining about “harsh criticism,” most of it online. https://twitter.com/...
Peter S. Goodman / @petersgoodman: Apparently I slept through the college class where they taught us that free speech means white people getting to say whatever they want without anyone hurting their feelings by calling them racists
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: The “cancel culture” moral panic gets even dumber with the New York Times writing a 2,500 word essay not just equating “harsh criticism” with actual censorship, but treating it like it's far worse. https://www.salon.com/...
Amanda Marcotte / @amandamarcotte: What the @nytimes editorial board doesn't want to deal with is that “shaming and shunning” — even if it's not fair or justified — is a form of free speech. And just as protected as the opinions that trigger it. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Another defender! @robbysoave from Koch- and Scaife-funded @reason writes: “The New York Times published a terrific editorial on Friday.” https://reason.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@ramshornstudios: @KarenAttiah This is exactly what I read into the NYT editorial today. “The myriad of problems we have today (climate change, racial inequality, wealth disparity, the threat of nuclear war) aren't the biggest problem we face. The biggest problem we face is upending the status quo.”
Instructor Florence Ashley / @butnotthecity: Love to see the New York Times rally around “muh freeze peach” instead of, gosh I don't know, opposing Texas literally ~*kidnapping*~ trans kids. https://twitter.com/...
@dystopiabreaker: yeah 3 sitting us senators just proposed a bill that would define new thoughtcrimes and introduce unprecedented restrictions on free expression that run counter to the last 100 years of 1A jurisprudence lmao https://twitter.com/...
Glenn Greenwald / @ggreenwald: There are some valid and even important points in this Editorial — especially on how free speech principles came from the liberal-left, which now mostly rejects them — but it's an odd lecture from a paper that fired two editors for publishing an op-ed by a sitting Senator: https://twitter.com/...
@upulie: This is really offensive. Free speech has consequences. Being criticised is not the same as being denied free speech and it is utterly disgraceful that the NYT thinks this is oppression https://twitter.com/...
@stonekettle: “People are losing the right to speak their minds & voice their opinions in public without fear of being shamed or shunned” Literally the opposite. Those who were once rightly shunned for their wrong, hateful, and insane beliefs NOW have huge platforms https://www.nytimes.com/...
@kimballscott: This thread! The right to free speech does not mean that a person shouldn't be challenged when they say something biased or prejudiced! https://twitter.com/...
Cathy Young / @cathyyoung63: And by “the left criticizing hate,” we mean “destroying someone's career for criticizing riots” or “mounting a vicious hate campaign against a writer who lapsed into ‘white saviorism’ or ‘cultural appropriation’ while writing sympathetically about minority groups” https://twitter.com/...
@theradr: “Siri, what is the difference between experiencing social consequences for ideas others regard as harmful, potentially even to themselves, & the government infringing on the ability to share those opinions?” “Siri, does the Constitution protect citizens from experiencing shame?” https://twitter.com/...
@antheabutler: The thing about the @nytimes editorial is that they got their fee fee's hurt because we talked about them, and rightfully so. Like I said, there are some great op-ed folks, but some of the shit they let go by is awful. Then board doubles down and wonders why we all drag them.
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: The Times Editorial Board is trying to convince us that it is canceled. There is no such things as cancel culture. The Times is not canceled. It is merely complaining about having to share its stage. 16/
Howard Sherman / @hsherman: @jeffjarvis Great thread. This passage struck me. The message of “restraint” translates to - you hear something you don't like, turn the other cheek like a well-behaved citizen. Uh no, free speech can be angry speech as well. Don't treat us like children. https://twitter.com/...
Dave Algoso / @dalgoso: The false equivalency in the NYT editorial is too much... writing 101: the most important thing goes first. readers will weight the sentence about “the left” more heavily, even with the words “more extreme” in the second sentence. and yet NYT repeats this practice throughout. https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: Of course, the grand paradox of this editorial is that The Times is complaining of being silenced in the greatest platform for speech ever yet created, the editorial page of The New York Times. 14/
Julia Ioffe / @juliaioffe: @KarenAttiah 1000%
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: Here are some of the things that might persuade me that cancel culture is a real and pervasive problem: - A clear, falsifiable, and consistent definition of what it means to be canceled. - Some data (I'll start with a few anecdotes) that there are many cancelations. 1/
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: - Some sort of evidence that this is a new problem. - Some sort of evidence that we have fewer rather than more opinions shared in the world. 2/end
Conor Friedersdorf / @conor64: The backlash to centrist liberals defending free speech, even in ways with the minor imperfections of that editorial, is baffling to me, as is the abandonment of the ethos that we should coexist with and tolerate people who disagree with us rather than quit or get them fired. https://twitter.com/...
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: I personally really like AG. He's a lovely guy and smart. But I think he is running a paper adrift and in crisis. And this editorial was like them screaming out: Yeah, mother fuckers, we're quadrupling down on our both-sidist views. 5/
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: @conor64 Yeah. If that was what anyone said that would be weird. Sure glad I said something different! Also: what is so bad about quitting? Why is that such a huge deal? Haven't you quit things? People keep saying me wanting to quit is some big thing. I've quit a lot of jobs.
Adam Davidson / @adamdavidson: I saw this as, mostly, a Dean Baquet problem. And I was hopeful (though wary) that his replacement will right the ship. But this editorial—approved, I have to assume, by AG Suzlberger, the publisher—suggests the problem is deep in the org. 4/
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Jumping to @nytopinion's defense: None other than @TheFIREorg, which takes Koch money and spreads moral panic. They say the outpouring of negative responses “only lend more legitimacy to their claims” and: https://www.thefire.org/... https://twitter.com/...
Michael Hobbes / @rottenindenmark: The core problem with this discourse is that it's being led by people whose jobs subject them to public criticism. It's probably true that national newspaper editors receive more negative feedback than they used to. But that's not a generalized threat to free speech! https://twitter.com/...
Holden Thorp / @hholdenthorp: Like many others, I wonder whether @DougJBalloon wrote this piece. https://twitter.com/...
Cathy Davidson / @cathyndavidson: True! And did you read the survey? Several questions about “did you hold your tongue because you feared harsh criticism for something you said” with no filter for whether or not you said something, uh, hateful, offensive, stupid, untenable, despicable . . . the list goes on https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Kosseff / @jkosseff: I really was on board with this take until the last sentence. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: Former UN Special Rapporteur on freedom of opinion and expression ==> https://twitter.com/...
Tom Watson / @tomwatson: I agree with @froomkin - the NYT should retract this insanity, and replace the entire editorial board. An absolute disgrace. https://presswatchers.org/...
ProfB / @antheabutler: This is an important thread and why what I said about @nytimes last week is important. You can see that tweet pinned to the top of my timeline. https://twitter.com/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: BTW, I think @nytopinion should publish a much wider range of views than it does currently. That includes from the right. But there's a catch: They should also explain why. See, from the archives: https://presswatchers.org/...
Dan Froomkin / @froomkin: I bow to the greatness of @BoingBoing: “This is the shit sandwich everyone else has been eating since time immemorial and now you get to eat it too, you stupid fucking soaks.” https://boingboing.net/... https://twitter.com/...
Aaron Rupar / @atrupar: The First Amendment right to force other people to endure my terrible opinions https://twitter.com/...
Erielle Davidson / @politicalelle: This week, over a hundred Yale Law students shouted down a female conservative speaker at an event where the two speakers AGREED. They called her a “b*tch.” Today isn't your day, Jeff. Take a seat. The illiberal left has overplayed its hand. https://twitter.com/...
Jane Harper / Virginian-Pilot:
Sierra Jenkins, a 25-year-old reporter for The Virginian-Pilot, was among those killed in the crossfire during a shooting in downtown Norfolk on Saturday — Saturday would have been Sierra Jenkins' turn to cover the breaking news shift for The Virginian-Pilot.
Discussion:
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Discussion:
Jane Harper / @janeharpervp: I've covered more murders than I can count during my reporting career but today's will always stand out. Among the victims was my sweet colleague Sierra Jenkins. I was asked to fill in for her today when editors couldn't reach her. We found later why. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Dorothy Tucker / @dorothy4nabj: The entire @NABJ family is wrapping our arms around the family, friends and colleagues of @virginianpilot reporter, Sierra Jenkins. This a tragic loss of a beautiful, young, intrepid reporter. We are in close contact with @HRBMP_org for support. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Tom Mallory / @tom_mallory: “'She wasn't much of a going-out kind of person at all,' (the 25-year-old shooting victim's father) said. But her best friend was in town and the two decided to go out together.” https://www.pilotonline.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Liz Szabo / @lizszabo: Journalists cover gun violence everyday, and tell the stories of innocent people who get caught in the crossfire. Today, one of own is among the victims. I'm so sorry my friend Jane had to write about the death of her colleague. https://twitter.com/...
Rep. Elaine Luria / @repelaineluria: Keeping the Jenkins and @virginianpilot families in my prayers during this difficult time. Coastal Virginia is better because of Sierra's reporting and pursuit of the truth. https://twitter.com/...
Brent Watts / @wattsupbrent: Thoughts going out to the family as well as coworkers at the Pilot. Losing a coworker is like losing family. https://twitter.com/...
@virginianpilot: We're waking up today with a hole in our hearts. A piece missing. We miss you, Sierra. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Joy / @joy_resmovits: I knew her name was familiar — turns out it was from an @EdWriters email announcing her entry to the education beat. All gun violence is tragic. This feels personal. I am mourning her loss, and the loss of everyone who died this weekend. https://twitter.com/...
Nancy Lieberman / @nancylieberman: So hard to understand 😪 evil people hurting good ones https://twitter.com/...
Daniel Hernandez / @longdrivesouth: Absolutely wrecked by this: “Jenkins was scheduled to work a shift on the day she died. When editors were unable to reach her to have her to cover the shooting, they asked another reporter to fill in for her. A short time later, they learned Jenkins was among those killed.” rip https://twitter.com/...
Michel Martin / @nprmichel: What's happening in Ukraine is horrible. So is what's happening in our streets: Virginian-Pilot reporter among those killed in Granby Street shooting in downtown Norfolk https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Pilar Arias / Fox News: Virginia reporter discovered dead in shooting when paper tries to assign her the story
Amy Kuperinsky / @amykup: “When an editor learned early Saturday that several people had been shot in downtown Norfolk, he called Jenkins repeatedly to ask her to cover it. But she couldn't be reached.” Heartbreaking. Virginian-Pilot reporter Sierra Jenkins, 25, dead after fatal shooting. https://twitter.com/...
L. Louise Lucas / @senlouiselucas: Heartbroken at this news. https://twitter.com/...
John Johnson / Newser: Young Reporter Fatally Shot in Bar Altercation
Gillian Brockell / Washington Post: Young journalist among 2 killed in Norfolk shooting
Rep. Donald McEachin / @repmceachin: My prayers & condolences are with the families of Sierra Jenkins & the other victims of last night's shooting in downtown Norfolk. These tragic acts of gun violence must end. https://twitter.com/...
Joshua Eaton / @joshua_eaton: “Jenkins' father ... described his daughter as a sweet, caring and hard-working young woman who loved being a journalist. She just turned 25 on March 13 and was the oldest of three siblings.” How stupid and senseless and awful. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Rana Cash / @rana_cash: This is such terrible news. Sierra Jenkins, a reporter at the Virginian-Pilot and Georgia State University graduate, is the victim of a fatal shooting. @NABJ https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Steve Gunn / @sgunn: What an absolute tragedy. https://twitter.com/...
Lori Higgins / @loriahiggins: This is heartbreaking. I met Sierra a few wks ago in D.C. for the @EdWriters new to the beat program. I was her mentor and after one meeting with her, I walked away feeling rejuvenated. She was so enthusiastic and had such a drive for journalism and this beat I love. Devastating. https://twitter.com/...
Maddy Will / @madeline_will: Absolutely heartbreaking. Thinking of the @virginianpilot newsroom and everyone else who knew and loved Sierra. https://twitter.com/...
Kristen Zeis / @k_zeis: Struggling to find words. Sierra was a wonderful colleague and such a talented journalist. https://twitter.com/...
Stephen Stirling / @sstirling: The lede on this story is devastating. RIP. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
NABJ Students / @nabjstudents: @NABJSTUDENTS would like to send our condolences and prayers to the family of The Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk reporter Sierra Jenkins. We join the wide community who loved and appreciated Sierra in mourning this tremendous loss. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Emily Richmond / @ewaemily: Sierra had a special light, and we were proud to have her in this year's @edwriters New to the Beat corps. We send our deepest condolences to her @virginianpilot colleagues, and her family and friends, on this tragic, senseless, unfathomable loss. May her memory be a blessing. https://twitter.com/...
Josh Reyes / @jdauzreyes: Sierra would get so excited talking about stories she was working on, and that was reflected in her reporting. She was kind and considerate and talented. This is just so terrible https://twitter.com/...
Derek Moore / @deadlinederek: It's hard to fathom not being able to reach a reporter for her breaking news shift because she was a victim in the shooting you wanted her to cover. So very tragic. https://twitter.com/...
Patrick Reilly / New York Post: Virginian-Pilot journalist among two killed in shooting outside Norfolk bar
@nabj: 🕯We are saddened to learn of the passing of Virginian-Pilot & Daily Press reporter Sierra Jenkins. Sierra was among the victims of an overnight shooting in Norfolk. She was a talented reporter with a bright future ahead of her. We send condolences to her family and colleagues. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@kenyathehunter: Sierra and I just talked about her dreams. She had so many dreams of being the best journalist she could be. I'm so heartbroken over this. Love you @SierraJenk. Forever and ever. https://twitter.com/...
Sean Kennedy / @seandkennedy: I called Sierra's phone early this morning because we heard about an overnight shooting. Sierra was filling in on a weekend breaking news shift. I left a message. I may have apologized for possibly waking her up. Jane, thank you for doing such tremendous work today. https://twitter.com/...
Sean Kennedy / @seandkennedy: I am beyond devastated. Sierra was an amazing reporter with her whole career ahead of her. She just moved into a new apartment — her first solo apartment. She had just been to a professional conference. This is not fair. https://twitter.com/...
@virginianpilot: We are devastated to report that Virginian-Pilot and Daily Press reporter Sierra Jenkins was among the victims of an overnight shooting in downtown Norfolk. She was 24. https://www.pilotonline.com/ ...
Laura Studley / CNN: Virginian-Pilot reporter and former CNN news assistant Sierra Jenkins killed in shooting
Katherine Huggins / Mediaite: 25-Year-Old Reporter Among 2 Killed in Shooting Outside Virginia Restaurant, 3 Others Injured
WTKR-TV: 2 people, including Virginian-Pilot reporter, killed in quintuple shooting in Downtown Norfolk
Tereza Shkurtaj / The Sun: Who was Sierra Jenkins and what was her cause of death?
William Turvill / Press Gazette:
BBC says it had a weekly non-UK news audience of 456M in 2021, up 18M from 2020, and is set to hit 500M this year, which marks its hundredth anniversary — The BBC is on track to reach a weekly non-UK news audience of 500m this year, according to an executive tasked with North American growth.
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