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A court filing in the Dominion-Fox lawsuit shows more texts and emails from hosts and executives privately expressing disbelief about stolen US election claims — The comments, by Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and others, were released as part of a defamation suit against Fox News by Dominion Voter Systems.
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Superior Court of the State of Delaware: Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network, Fox Corp and Fox Broadcasting
@erikwemple: By filing its suit and plowing through discovery, Dominion has produced perhaps the most piercing look at the internal goings-on at Fox News in its quarter-century history.
Wall Street Journal: Fox News Hosts, Executives Raised Concerns About 2020 Election-Fraud Claims Made on the Air, Filing Shows
Annie Grayer / @anniegrayercnn: Buried in the Dominion filing: Donald Trump dialed into Lou Dobbs' show on 1/6 trying to get on air but Fox would not let him. 1/6 committee didn't know Trump had made this call, according to a source familiar with the panel's work. https://twitter.com/...
Annie Grayer / CNN: Fox News executives refused to let Trump on-air when he called in during January 6 attack, Dominion says
Will Sommer / @willsommer: This filing in the Dominion lawsuit against Fox News is one of the most remarkable documents I've ever seen. Filled with private texts between Fox stars like Hannity and Carlson, plus Murdoch, all admitting they knew Fox's stolen election claims were lies. https://int.nyt.com/...
Walter Shaub / @waltshaub: This reporting should leave Fox News viewers horrified to learn nothing they watch on Fox is true. But it won't. Instead, they'll be grateful for being lied to. They didn't tune in because they wanted truth. They tuned in to be protected from the truth. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: More: After a Fox News staffer correctly fact-checked stuff that was coming out of the network's opinion side, all hell broke loose among the prime-timers. Stunning: https://twitter.com/...
@erikwemple: Huge day in the Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News defamation case, with both sides filing summary-judgment motions. Dominion's version is a nearly 200-page document bursting with text messages from network talent in the tense days following the 2020 presidential election. 1/
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: Have a look at this collection of Fox quotes from November 2020, as Sidney Powell and others were spinning their case that the presidential election was stolen. https://twitter.com/...
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: Fox's top stars wanted @JacquiHeinrich fired for fact-checking a tweet about election lies. Carlson told Hannity: “Please get her fired. Seriously ... what the fuck?” https://twitter.com/...
Brian Rosenwald / The World According to Brian: The Fox News revelations shouldn't surprise you
David Axelrod / @davidaxelrod: Worse than believing a heinous and destructive lie is KNOWING it's a lie and still giving it oxygen for competitive reasons. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Stephen Battaglio / Los Angeles Times: ‘Crazy.’ ‘Nuts.’ Six wild revelations from the Fox News defamation case
Nicholas Riccardi / Bangor Daily News: Lawsuit is latest evidence of bogus ‘stolen election’ claims
Jocelyn Benson / @jocelynbenson: So lets be real: a *lot* of powerful voices who have spread & amplified election misinformation these last few years have knowingly & intentionally done so. The facts & truth about the security & accuracy of elections are there for all who want to see it. https://www.cnn.com/...
Bonnie Kristian / Reason: On Elections and Gender, Fox Hosts and New York Times Critics Gave Up on Persuasion
Victoria Brownworth / @vabvox: The Dominion lawsuit has revealed some amazing details about Fox's hypocrisy. Fox News executives refused to let Trump on-air when he called in during January 6 attack, Dominion says https://www.cnn.com/...
George Conway / @gtconway3d: “Newly released messages show Fox executives fretting that month over an uncomfortable revelation: that if they told their audience the truth about the election, it could destroy their business model.” https://twitter.com/...
@froomkin: Let me rewrite this for you: A series of newly released texts authoritatively confirms what we knew already: That Fox News leaders knowingly feed their viewers lies in order to maintain their ratings dominance. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Alia Shoaib / Insider: Trump tried to call in to Fox News as the Capitol riot unfolded but the network refused to put him on air, new filing claims
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: The WSJ has now (finally) published a story on the Dominion filing. https://www.wsj.com/...
Alex Griffing / Mediaite: Fox Blocked Trump from Going on Air During Capitol Attack, Exec Testified: ‘Would Be Irresponsible to Put Him On’
Timothy B. Lee / @binarybits: I don't agree with the “typical NYT” part but this does seem like a good point. https://twitter.com/...
Maxim Lott / @maximlott: Dishonest “reporting” by @nytimes @jwpetersNYT @katie_robertson. Cites @TuckerCarlson texts calling a Trump lawyer a liar ... and acts as if they show he was happy to mislead audience But Carlson called out Trump's lawyer ON AIR at the time! https://www.youtube.com/... Typical NYT https://twitter.com/...
Ben Blanchet / HuffPost: MSNBC Host Rips Tucker Carlson And Fox News: They're Calling ‘Viewers Idiots’
Michael Marshall Smith / @ememess: People died because of deliberate lies from Fox. Faith in democratic elections has been crucially undermined. They enabled and promoted the cause of domestic terrorism. The consequences for this should go well beyond the Dominion lawsuit. https://www.cnn.com/...
Gene Maddaus / Variety: Fox News Lied to Viewers to Keep Them From Fleeing, According to Dominion Suit
John Pavlovitz / @johnpavlovitz: The election was not stolen, only millions of people's critical thinking abilities. https://www.cnn.com/...
Jonathan Karl / @jonkarl: Tucker Carlson's reaction to a Fox News reporter telling the truth: “Please get her fired,” Mr. Carlson said. He added: “It needs to stop immediately, like tonight. It's measurably hurting the company. The stock price is down. Not a joke.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
Charisma Madarang / Rolling Stone: Tucker Carlson Calls Trump ‘Demonic Force’ in New Legal Filing
Kurt Andersen / @kbandersen: Yes. Read it. Wow. 100 smoking guns. Vast evidence of @FoxNews talent & executives knowingly spreading the Big Lie. Their panic about viewer reaction when Fox occasionally aired truth—as one executive said: “It's remarkable how weak ratings make good journalists do bad things.” https://twitter.com/...
Jeremy Stahl / Slate: Tucker Carlson's Dominion Text Messages Are a Thing of Beauty
Doktor Zoom / Wonkette: Boy, Those Fox News Texts, I Don't Know
Mark Mwachiro / TVNewser: Latest Court Filings From Dominion Show Fox News Works Hard to Protect Its Brand
Jonathan Chait / New York Magazine: Tucker Carlson Tried to Get Fox News Reporter Fired for Fact-Checking Trump
@joelkatz: Dominion has the strongest defamation case I've ever seen against Fox News. This could easily result in a 9 figure award. (Relax, that's like 5% of Fox News.) https://twitter.com/...
Sophie Lawton / Media Matters for America: Rupert Murdoch told Fox CEO Suzanne Scott Fox News would “concentrate” on “helping any way we can” in the Georgia runoff elections
Erik Larson / Toronto Star: Fox News knew vote-fraud claim was bogus — and aired it anyway, Dominion says
Philip Bump / @pbump@journa.host: The Dominion filing against Fox is a bombshell, but the important thing it elevates is less the network's embrace of fraud claims but, instead, a pattern of dishonesty and mistakes that led Fox to do so. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Philip Bump / @pbump@journa.host: Fox let Trump lie with abandon for years, building a loyal Trump audience. Then it made that bad call on Arizona that pissed off viewers. Then Newsmax had space to eat away at its audience. …
Charlotte Klein / Vanity Fair: “Our Viewers...Believe It”: What Fox News Execs and Stars Were Really Thinking While the Network Boosted Donald Trump's Election Lies
Arieh Kovler / @ariehkovler: Read this thread or, better, the whole filing. It's extraordinary. Fox's top stars all colluded to lie about the election because they were worried their business would suffer if they didn't. https://twitter.com/...
Harry Litman / @harrylitman: Documents showing Fox stars, and Murdoch, knew the Big Lie was just that. eg Carlson to Ingraham: “Sidney Powell is lying by the way. I caught her. It's insane.” Will be very strong evidence in defamation suits. https://www.nytimes.com/...
@hasanthehun: real demon shit here but as is the case w many of these lawsuits surrounding fox news, or other rw figures like alex jones, their fans will never realize they're being lied to all the time by people who openly admit they're lying in the court documents. https://twitter.com/...
Ryan J. Reilly / @ryanjreilly: “The afternoon of January 6, after the Capitol came under attack, then President Trump dialed into Lou Dobbs show attempting to get on air. But Fox executives vetoed that decision.” https://twitter.com/...
Nicole Perlroth / @nicoleperlroth: Not a lawyer but it certainly looks like Dominion has the goods in its $1.6B lawsuit against Fox. Fox Stars Privately Expressed Disbelief About Trump's Election Fraud Claims - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/...
@gtconway3dg: I'm reminded that as part of Sidney Powell's defense, her lawyer argued in March 2021 that “no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.” https://twitter.com/...
Bill Pascrell, Jr. / @billpascrell: The republican party's top propaganda outlet knew it was spreading election lies and kept doing it to continue to radicalizing millions. Every American should read these documents. https://twitter.com/...
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: A person with direct knowledge of the matter tells me that Heinrich was blindsided reading the details in the legal filing tonight and was not aware of the efforts by top hosts behind the scenes to get her fired.
The Guardian: Fox News hosts thought Trump's election fraud claims were ‘total BS’, court filings show
Cheri Jacobus / @cherijacobus: “It's remarkable how weak ratings make... good journalists do bad things,” Bill Sammon, at the time the network's Washington Managing Editor, privately wrote on Dec. 2, 2020." Off the air, Fox News stars blasted the election fraud claims they peddled https://www.npr.org/...
Karlene Lukovitz / MediaPost: Dominion Filing Reveals Fox Players' Disbelief Of Voter Fraud Claims
Norm Eisen / @normeisen: Dominion's brief tearing the facade off of Fox News is a defining document of the era of election denial, together with the 1/6 Committee report—and the coming Georgia indictment of Trump. “Fox knew."https://int.nyt.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: This is what Tucker Carlson said at the top of his show TONIGHT. https://twitter.com/...
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: It's almost like Tucker Carlson is a different guy behind the scenes than he is in front of the camera. https://twitter.com/...
Jim LaPorta / @jimlaporta: .@TuckerCarlson of @FoxNews wanted @JacquiHeinrich of @FoxNews fired for *checks notes* doing her job at @FoxNews by fact checking a claim made by the President https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@beyondreasdoubt: You know the joke “discovery will be lit 🔥” well here it is irl ... this thread man https://twitter.com/...
@nikkimcr: Lest we forget that Fox fired Chris Stirewalt for not caving to the election conjecture being spun by his on-air colleagues https://twitter.com/...
Timothy Burke / @bubbaprog: There has perhaps never been a greater illustration of what “knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not” than every person who works at Fox after the 2020 election https://twitter.com/...
Libby Casey / @libcasey: “Mind-blowingly nuts,” “totally off the rails” and “completely bs.” -Fox News stars, producers & execs comments on Trump's false election claims...in private. Even as they peddled the lies on TV. By @davidfolkenflik @NPR https://www.npr.org/...
Andy / @andylevy: gotta be a rough night for the handful of people left at fnc who are capable of feeling embarrassment or shame https://twitter.com/...
Orin Kerr / @orinkerr: This is quite a legal brief. It was filed today in Delaware state court by Dominion Voting Sytems in its defamation lawsuit against Fox News. (via @nytimes) https://int.nyt.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Pete Strzok / @petestrzok: Bill Barr and Jeff Jensen did. Btw, where's the long-rumored DOJ OPR report looking into all that? Dead and forgotten in the main Justice sub basement? https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: One thing that leaps out of the document is just how panicked were network officials about the viewers' disenchantment with the network's very early call of Arizona for Biden. It appears the whole place was in a state of revolt: https://twitter.com/...
Jon Favreau / @jonfavs: Fox News in a nutshell: Georgetown Populist Tucker Carlson is enraged that a colleague's truthful reporting is hurting his company's stock price. https://twitter.com/...
@erikwemple: The minutiae disclosed in the Dominion filing are scandalous: They show just how incompatible is the hosts' candid chatter with the product they put on the airwaves — and the reason for that gulf is ratings. Period.
David Frum / @davidfrum: Fox News is going to need to mint a quadrillion dollar platinum coin of its own to pay the libel judgment it will owe to Dominion Voting Systems https://twitter.com/...
@erikwemple: The argument from Dominion — bolstered by correspondence among the network's top people — is that Fox News knew all too well that the stolen-election claims were a lie, yet they plowed ahead with programming indicating the opposite. /3
@erikwemple: In its own summary judgment brief filed today, Fox News argued that: *President Trump's campaign to overturn the 2020 election was newsworthy; *The statements in question were not “actionable defamation”; *Fox News hosts were covering these allegations, not advocating them;
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: A big part of the Fox News defense is the claim that Dominion's damages claim of $1.6 billion is a huge crock. Here's an important passage from the Fox News document: https://twitter.com/...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: What's more, Fox News claims that the record doesn't establish “actual malice” on part of the Fox News hosts. That means that they either knew the claims were false or proceeded with reckless disregard. To buttress this line of defense, Fox News argues: https://twitter.com/...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: More Fox News defense arguments: *The Fox News filing details moments in the coverage when hosts make statements clarifying that the Powell-Giuliani-Trump allegations are just that: allegations; Here's a critical passage explaining this defense: https://twitter.com/...
George Conway / @gtconway3d: It sure looks like the applicable First Amendment standard for liability will be met .... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Rob Quinn / Newser: In Private, Fox Stars Mocked Election Fraud Claims
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: Some additional defense from a Fox News spokesperson: https://twitter.com/...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: Fox News today issued a statement regarding the Dominion filing: https://twitter.com/...
Betsy Klein / @betsy_klein: “Mr. Carlson continued, ‘Our viewers are good people and they believe it,’ he added, making clear that he did not.” https://twitter.com/...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: Fox News wiggled out of a defamation suit by arguing people shouldn't take the programming seriously (specifically, Tucker Carlson's show). Perhaps to fend off that defense, the Dominion filing goes into detail to show that the network's people see themselves as journalists: https://twitter.com/...
Erik Wemple / @erikwemple: More material in which Fox News people affirm they're in the news biz: https://twitter.com/...
Kevin M. Kruse / @kevinmkruse: Do Bond villains make an appearance in the Fox News texts? Yes, they do. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Rachael Bade / Politico: Fox's 2020 split screen revealed
Tom Nichols / @radiofreetom: It's almost like they are horrendous elitists who only admitted the truth to each other, while letting the rubes lap up the nutty conspiracy theories for ratings. https://twitter.com/...
David Folkenflik / @davidfolkenflik: For Fox News, calling Arizona for Biden in 20202 caused “brand damage” and internal crisis. Carlson, Hannity & top execs dismissed election fraud claims as baseless - but privately denounced colleagues who said so publicly, including Cavuto. My story: https://www.npr.org/...
Dan Kennedy / Media Nation: Why relevations that Fox stars knew Trump was lying may boost Dominion's libel suit
@existentialfish: Fox exec on Newsmax: “They're not a news organization....[W]e have to follow journalistic rules...they do not have to and they simply do not.” https://twitter.com/...
@existentialfish: On January 5, 2021, Rupert Murdoch suggested all Fox primetime hosts issue a statement that the election was over and Biden won. https://twitter.com/...
@existentialfish: “as early as November 5, Fox's Chief Political Correspondent Bret Baier stated privately ‘There is NO evidence of fraud. None.’” https://twitter.com/...
Bad Fox Graphics / @badfoxgraphics: 2/ “Please get her fired. Seriously....what the fuck?” -@TuckerCarlson to @seanhannity after @JacquiHeinrich fact-checked a Trump tweet reporting there is no evidence that Dominion voting machines deleted, lost, or changed votes Heinrich deleted her fact check by morning. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@existentialfish: Fox execs were unhappy when a Fox reporter fact checked Giuliani and Sidney Powell's insane press conference, even calling the reporter to tell her that. Meanwhile, Ingraham and Tucker were calling her crazy. https://twitter.com/...
@existentialfish: The list of Fox execs who participated in relevant meetings includes both Rupert Murdoch and Lachlan Murdoch https://twitter.com/...
Bad Fox Graphics / @badfoxgraphics: “We need to fact check” -@BretBaier 🙄 Motion for summary judgment against @FoxNews has been filed, and Dominion has the goods. 🧵 https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@existentialfish: Tucker Carlson said that a Fox reporter should be fired for fact-checking one of Trump's tweets on Dominion. Fox exec Suzanne Scott said the reporter “has serious nerve doing this” https://twitter.com/...
@existentialfish: Tucker Carlson says that he tried to get the Trump White House to disavow Sidney Powell https://twitter.com/...
Dominick Mastrangelo / The Hill: Fox News hosts, execs privately blasted Trump election fraud claims shared on network, court documents show
Schooley / @rschooley: Can the whole Fox prime time line up suddenly go on a long planned vacation I wonder. https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Landers / @elizlanders: If you have been following the lies surrounding the 2020 election, this latest filing in the defamation suit between Dominion Voting Systems and Fox News is... stunning. 1 example: Fox News hosts talking about Sidney Powell, calling her a “complete nut” https://int.nyt.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@svdate: This is amazing. Fox's top hosts, executives all knew that the lunatic claims about rigged voting machines were false and broadcast them anyway because ratings. That would be malice. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Mark Frauenfelder / Boing Boing: In private text, Tucker Carlson complains about a “demonic” Donald Trump
George Conway / @gtconway3d: “'Sidney Powell is lying by the way. I caught her. It's insane,' Mr. Carlson wrote to Ms. Ingraham on Nov. 18, 2020. “Ms. Ingraham responded: ‘Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy.’ “Mr. Carlson continued, 'Our viewers are good people and they... https://twitter.com/...
Jeremy W. Peters / @jwpetersnyt: Tucker Carlson, to Laura Ingraham: “Sidney Powell is lying by the way. I caught her. It's insane.” Ingraham: “Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy.” That wasn't exactly what they were saying on the air. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Zachary Petrizzo / The Daily Beast: Fox News Fretted Over Mike Lindell, So They Allegedly Sent Him a ‘Gift’ He Never Got
Heather Cox Richardson / Letters from an American: A legal filing today in the case of Dominion Voting Systems against the Fox News Corporation provides …
Steve Bellovin / @SteveBellovin@mastodon.lawprofs.org: When I read https://mastodon.social/... my first thought was “this sounds like actual malice”. Even ChatGPT seems to understand the concept...
Ted Johnson / Deadline: Rupert Murdoch, Fox News Hosts Saw Donald Trump's Election Fraud Claims As “Crazy” And “B.S.,” Dominion Says In Defamation Filing; Network Calls Lawsuit “An Assault On First Amendment”
Aron Pilhofer / @pilhofer@journa.host: Now tell me who is doing more damage to our democracy: Mark Zuckerberg or Rupert Murdoch? And if you're answer is Zuck, please note how Rupert and his cronies willingly, knowingly, deliberately shoveled dangerous lies onto the airwaves in search of ratings. …
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Text messages and emails in the Dominion-Fox suit show that Fox News hosts and executives feared losing audience to Newsmax, which embraced election denialism — New York CNN — — Fox News has been exposed like never before. — A trove of newly-released text messages and emails …
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Brian Stelter / The Atlantic: I Never Truly Understood Fox News Until Now
David Folkenflik / NPR: Off the air, Fox News stars blasted the election fraud claims they peddled
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: One big takeaway from the Dominion bombshell filing: Fox News is terrified of its own audience. https://www.cnn.com/...
Tom Nichols / The Atlantic: The Real Elitists Are at Fox News
Richard Signorelli / @richsignorelli: Anti-immigrant Murdoch is ironically one of the worst immigrants himself imo. The damage he's done to our democracy is significant. Now, Dominion will make him pay for his lies. Check out this gift article, at no cost to you. Read here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
David Bauder / Associated Press: ‘Weak ratings make good journalists do bad things’: Fox News panic over Trump's loss doing bad numbers laid bare in court
Marsha Warfield / @marshawarfield: We knew they were lying, they knew they were lying, and their viewers knew they were lying. They. Did. It. Anyway. https://www.cnn.com/...
Jared Yates Sexton / @jysexton: GOP politics has always been a small group of elites with cosmopolitan traits and backgrounds radicalizing a base using racist, sexist, and xenophobic fearmongering. Power switched away from the traditional groups and to the base. And they hate it. https://twitter.com/...
Kaz Weida / @kazweida: This is spot on. “...despite privately acknowledging the realiity of the situation, the network allowed the lies on air, in large part because executives & hosts were terrified that telling its sizable audience the truth would prompt them to tune out.” https://www.cnn.com/...
@janeotn: “In the days after Biden won the election, while Trump shouted “Stop the Steal,” the most powerful people at Fox News were not concerned about the health of U.S. democracy. They were concerned about Fox's brand and their own bottom line.” Shut down Fox. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Lindy Li / @lindyli: Tucker Carlson was more terrified of losing viewers and advertising revenue to Newsmax than he was of losing our hard-won republic to Trump's terrorist thugs He has forfeited everything it means to be American https://twitter.com/...
@stephen_richer: Just like many Arizona politicians, Fox News personalities privately called the stolen election theories: “complete bs” “off the rails” “nuts” But then @TuckerCarlson, @IngrahamAngle, @seanhannity parroted them publicly. They are lying to you. https://www.npr.org/...
Yoni Appelbaum / @yappelbaum: “Somewhere around page 157, it clicked.” New, from @brianstelter: https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
@deggans: Another argument Fox News Channel is a political operation disguised as a cable newschannel: material from the Dominion voting systems lawsuit — in which FNC's top anchors deride the election conspiracy theories they would push on air: https://www.npr.org/...
Sarah Longwell / @sarahlongwell25: Fox News holds their audience in such contempt. https://twitter.com/...
Matt DeRienzo / @mattderienzo: Wondering what leaders of journalism trade organizations and affinity groups are doing after this news. Why aren't we expelling Fox from membership and participation based on egregious and repeated rejection of the most basic industry standards and ethics? https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Rachel Bitecofer / @rachelbitecofer: No other democracy would allow a propaganda outlet to intentionally poison its citizenry under the cover of ‘news.’ https://www.cnn.com/...
Jim Haigh / @jmhaigh: @mattderienzo Great question, Matt! Of any specific orgs, the group “Advancing the Future of Trusted Content” @DCNorg would have the strongest ethical spine. Has @jason_kint gone public yet — they're listed a member: https://digitalcontentnext.org/ ...
@paulachertok: Foxnews is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party—w/o which it might be a normal democratic party accountable to the public. But Fox cynically chose to prop up GOP toxic lies & frauds, more worried about “brand damage” than the brain damage they cause the country & democracy. https://twitter.com/...
David Amoyal / @davidamoyal: Fox News is a cancer on America, they continued to spread doubts on last presidential election while knowing it was bullshit- there is now much more division in this country and less trust in institutions I hope Dominion lawsuit brings some real change on lying for profit https://twitter.com/...
Evan McMurry / @evanmcmurry: Great seeing @brianstelter in @TheAtlantic: “The consensus view both inside and outside the network was that Fox's acknowledgment of reality—and specifically its early projection that Biden had won Arizona—had turned the audience against the network.” https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
@nxthompson: “Inside Fox, the prime-time stars and senior executives raged against the network's reporters not because they doubted that Biden had won, but because the truth was too disturbing to the audience that had made them rich.” @brianstelter https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Brian Stelter / @brianstelter: When Trump tried to start the steal by shouting “stop the steal,” the most powerful people at Fox News were not concerned about the health of U.S. democracy. They were concerned about Fox's brand and their own bottom lines. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Brent Staples / @brentnyt: Call it by its rightful name https://www.cnn.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: “Other sources at Fox told me to think of it not as a network per se, but as a profit machine. They feared doing anything that would disrupt the machine.” https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Chasten Buttigieg / @chasten: Misinformation is a threat to democracy, but unfortunately selling misinformation is more important to the people who profit from it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Sheldon Whitehouse / @senwhitehouse: An honest courtroom is a beautiful thing. Litigation brought out the truths that FOX mouthpieces shared with each other while busily selling the lies on the air. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Scott Linnen / @scottlinnen: The people who brought us Charlottesville, Pittsburgh, El Paso, Capitol Hill, Buffalo, and Colorado Springs are terrified of the Frankenstein monster they've created. https://twitter.com/...
Brian Rosenwald / @brianros1: This goes for all of conservative media. They are worried about alienating the audience — especially over the last 15 years or so as competition has increased & they know their audience will get the most crazy hard right stuff whether they embrace it or not. https://twitter.com/...
Media Matters for America: Fox News lied about Dominion and the 2020 election to compete with far-right Newsmax
Aidan McLaughlin / Mediaite: 6 Bombshell Revelations From Trove of New Evidence in Fox News Defamation Suit
Issac J. Bailey / Nieman Reports:
The New York Times' response to criticism of its trans coverage portrayed serious journalists as radical activists, a route too many outlets take if challenged — More than 1,000 Times contributors have sent an open letter asking for the paper of record to examine its biases in reporting on trans issues.
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@niemanreports, @autostraddle, @nancyromm, @bgrueskin, @hillarykwiatek, @amandabecker, @jeffjarvis, @stevesilberman, @melissagira, Media Matters for America, New York Daily News, LGBTQ Nation, Fox News, Newser, New York Magazine, The Pitt News, The Hill, Los Angeles Blade, Advocate, @froomkin@journa.host, Pirate Wires, Blogging Through the Breakdown, Know Your Meme, Boing Boing and Poynter
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@niemanreports: More than 1,000 Times contributors have sent an open letter asking for the paper of record to examine its biases in reporting on trans issues. The paper's response is part of the problem (by @ijbailey) https://niemanreports.org/...
@autostraddle: “What is missing in the pages of the great gray lady is not just important and necessary context, but competent and unbiased reporting.” https://www.autostraddle.com/ ...
Nancy Rommelmann / @nancyromm: Earlier this week, 200 New York Times contributors sent an open letter to the paper, excoriating its coverage on trans issues. GLAAD followed suit and made demands. The Times responded with a cool head. The end, right? @sarahhepola discuss on today's Smoke https://open.substack.com/...
Bill Grueskin / @bgrueskin: “The Times could have invited in some of its critics, to listen, learn, and have a substantive back-and-forth about an issue that is vexing many Americans. Instead, it took the route too many high-profile journalists take when challenged.” Via @ijbailey https://niemanreports.org/...
@hillarykwiatek: The comparison to crime coverage and Hillary Clinton's emails (remember the incredibly irresponsible Clinton Cash coverage?) in this piece is really spot on. https://niemanreports.org/...
Amanda Becker / @amandabecker: The NYT had a chance to earnestly grapple with a serious critique of its trans coverage by a serious group of professionals, including journalists who contributed to the paper. Instead, it decided to demean them as activists. https://niemanreports.org/...
Jeff Jarvis / @jeffjarvis: In a rare moment of media covering itself, here's the lead story on The Guardian right now (while everybody is *at last* covering the venality of Fox News, too)... Nearly 1,000 contributors protest New York Times' coverage of trans people https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Steve Silberman / @stevesilberman: Superb, informed reply to @nytimes' grotesque response to criticism of its coverage of #trans issues. https://niemanreports.org/...
Melissa Gira Grant / @melissagira: “He could have saved a few words and just officially slurred them as ‘woke,’ because that's the way it comes across.” https://niemanreports.org/...
Vesper Henry / Media Matters for America: The New York Times rejects calls for accountability after letters suggest anti-trans bias at the paper of record
Muri Assunção / New York Daily News: NYT top editor tells staff paper ‘will not tolerate’ journalists protesting its coverage of trans issues
John Russell / LGBTQ Nation: Amy Schneider blasts New York Times' anti-transgender coverage as the paper defends JK Rowling
Brian Flood / Fox News: New York Times warns staffers to stop attacking each other in memo defending coverage of transgender issues
Kate Seamons / Newser: NYT Chides Journalists Who Faulted Paper's Trans Coverage
Dominick Mastrangelo / The Hill: NYT editors: Paper ‘will not tolerate’ its journalists protesting coverage of transgender people
@froomkin@journa.host: This is a fantastic essay by @ijbailey. Here's the first paragraph: — RT @NiemanReports — More than 1,000 Times contributors have sent an open letter asking for the paper of record to examine its biases in reporting on trans issues. …
Brandon Gorrell / Pirate Wires: The New York Times Response To The GLAAD Trans Letter
Jacob Weindling / Blogging Through the Breakdown: The New York Times Political Section Cares More about its Brand than Journalism
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The Daily Beast:
Memo: The New York Times Executive Editor Joe Kahn defends the outlet's trans coverage and warns staff and contributors not to campaign or attack colleagues — “We do not welcome, and will not tolerate, participation by Times journalists” in protests over the paper's coverage of trans issues, its executive editor wrote.
Discussion:
@maxwelltani, The Guardian, @madelesque, @jeremylittau, @froomkin, @ijbailey, @guardianus, @emilycrockett, @willmcavoyacn, @ggreeneva, PRWeek, Advocate, @melissagira, @msignorile, @erratarob, @jessespector, @redlianak, New Statesman, @nberlat, @madelesque, @jonathanchait, @jonathanchait, @cohnrussell, @megan_nicolett, @lukeoneil47, @beijingpalmer, @beijingpalmer, @lukeoneil47, @beijingpalmer, @whstancil, @whstancil, @hamiltonnolan, @whstancil, @samthielman, @byjudedoyle, @woahitsjuanito, @femme_thoughts, @samthielman, @lukeoneil47, @toley88, @dick_nixon, @gaywonk, @transscribe, @feliciasonmez, @oneunderscore__, @dellcam, @elivalley, @karlbode, @dellcam, @louispeitzman, NBC News, @tzimmer_history …, @parkermolloy@masto.ai, New York Post, Los Angeles Times and @rain@hachyderm.io
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Max Tani / @maxwelltani: Memo from Joe Kahn to NYT staff responding to yesterday's letter re: trans coverage. Times leadership says the paper “will not tolerate, participation by Times journalists in protests organized by advocacy groups or attacks on colleagues on social media and other public forums.” https://twitter.com/...
Gloria Oladipo / The Guardian: Nearly 1,000 contributors protest New York Times' coverage of trans people
Madeline Leung Coleman / @madelesque: I am deeply disappointed and disgusted that my employer @nymag published this in response to the open letters to NYT. Distorting, wrongheaded, shortsighted, un-fact-checked. And by the way, check out this line! https://twitter.com/...
Jeremy Littau / @jeremylittau: Please don't take sides with advocacy groups because it makes you not neutral, says the publication that ran a piece with the headline “In Defense of J.K. Rowling.” https://twitter.com/...
@froomkin: This is a fantastic essay by @ijbailey. Here's the first paragraph: https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@guardianus: Nearly 1,000 contributors protest New York Times' coverage of trans people https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Emily Crockett / @emilycrockett: They were super sneaky in that perfectly NYT way of being not *technically* inaccurate, but absolutely giving the wrong impression. “A letter” refers to the GLAAD one. Then journos “joined the effort.” An “effort” could consist of multiple letters to the same end! 🙄 https://twitter.com/...
Will McAvoy / @willmcavoyacn: Remember when the New York Times got rid of their public editor? https://twitter.com/...
Greg Greene / @ggreeneva: I mean, as GLAAD notes, the Times keeps conflating two groups: concerned journalists, and an outside activist group. If the Times has proof that the former is speaking _for_ the latter, it should report that out. Otherwise that assertion looks gratuitous and gross. https://twitter.com/...
Jess Ruderman / PRWeek: New York Times responds to criticism of transgender coverage
Melissa Gira Grant / @melissagira: “It's so easy for an editor to write off somebody they construe as partial, saying, ‘This person is essentially akin to a disgruntled source or an activist,’ and that's not the kind of person The New York Times listens to,' Livingstone said.” https://www.nbcnews.com/...
Michelangelo Signorile / @msignorile: Wow, they got really angry upstairs. Keep hitting them harder. New York Times Blasts Staffers Who Condemned Paper's Trans Coverage https://www.thedailybeast.com/ ... via @thedailybeast
@erratarob: Disagreement with Rowling is legitimate. Sure, I hate the cancel culture. But the above “Defense” implies there's no good reason to disagree with Rowling. There are lots of good reasons, she's a tiny bit transphobic. https://www.nbcnews.com/...
Jesse Spector / @jessespector: Literally yesterday. And they respond by publishing PAMELA PAUL defending JK MONTHERFUCKING ROWLING. And yeah, I'm canceling my @TheAthletic subscription over this. Zero more dollars from me. Bye. https://www.nbcnews.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Liana Kerzner / @redlianak: Even I think the @nytimes coverage is insensitive and over the line, and I'm the “transphobe” of the week! https://www.nbcnews.com/...
Noah Berlatsky / @nberlat: the NYT taking a brave stand for free speech by (checks notes) using its power as an employer to silence criticism from staffers. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ ...
Madeline Leung Coleman / @madelesque: If you'd like to see the actual letter that so many contributors to NYT sent — and not the bogeyman Jonathan Chait seems to think he's responding to — you can read it here. And sign if you feel moved. https://nytletter.com/
Jonathan Chait / @jonathanchait: I understand why activists think critical reporting about youth gender medicine fuels a right-wing backlash. But their view is actually backward. The best way to defuse a backlash is accountability to ensure abuses don't occur. https://nymag.com/...
Jonathan Chait / @jonathanchait: The key premise of the NYT letter is that coverage resources are misplaced because nothing important has changed in youth gender treatment. And that is demonstrably untrue. https://nymag.com/...
Russell Cohn / @cohnrussell: Feel like something the @NYTimesGuild should comment on https://twitter.com/...
Megan Farokhmanesh / @megan_nicolett: the incredible number of writers I deeply admire and respect who've signed, vs those using it as part of a bad faith argument about how it's ~an attack on free press~ says everything https://twitter.com/...
Luke / @lukeoneil47: I am not unsympathetic to this problem obviously but there has to be a line somewhere for a lot of people. https://twitter.com/...
James Palmer / @beijingpalmer: also bear in mind that many journalists have a hard time speaking their mind on this because the NYT makes up such a massive proportion of high-level jobs. It's possible for me because I'm a China nerd who has no interest in working for them and a range of career choices.
James Palmer / @beijingpalmer: this is just going to be endlessly doubling-down on the self-satisfaction of believing that the Times, rather than the trans people it's helping fuel attacks on, is the victim here. https://twitter.com/...
Luke / @lukeoneil47: You are performing advocacy one way or the other whether you are aware of it or not. The difference now is that more of the audience is onto the con and can yell at you about it on Twitter every day. https://www.welcometohellworld.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
James Palmer / @beijingpalmer: the most effective way to affect change here is going to be for people in NY society to call out NYT management on this in the settings that actually matter to them; private events among the rich and powerful. Be polite, but be clear and firm; they need to feel opprobrium.
Will Stancil / @whstancil: Pretty clear that, in practice, Times leadership believes deeply in their own neutrality as a starting assumption, and thus anyone who criticizes them becomes an activist with an agenda. A perfect little epistemic loop for ignoring criticism. https://twitter.com/...
Will Stancil / @whstancil: The idea that biases could be embedded in their worldview, social contacts, the demographic makeup of their organization - and thus would only be identifiable by outsiders - never seems to occur to Times leadership. Or maybe they think they've evolved beyond such plebian matters.
Hamilton Nolan / @hamiltonnolan: This and the other NYT responses seem to be a total evasion of the question: What justifies the bizarre volume of coverage that one particular framing of this issue gets? I've never heard a remotely convincing explanation that's not incriminating. https://twitter.com/...
Will Stancil / @whstancil: The position of NY Times, always and forever, is that the NY Times exists outside and above society, is not subject to the petty biases that everyone else has, and therefore cannot ever be questioned or critiqued by anyone but certain chosen favorites within the Times. https://twitter.com/...
@samthielman: really remarkable how much they're willing to say that doesn't even touch the substance of the letter and its carefully itemized objections. just upset about being disrespected, as always. https://twitter.com/...
@byjudedoyle: So, basically, if you speak up, you're out. Seems like a solid commitment to examining all sides of the issue! https://twitter.com/...
@woahitsjuanito: 1. This is a massive slap in the face to every writer who contributed to the NYTLetter. 2. The GLAAD letter being conflated with the NYTLetter and used to diminish both at once isn't just insulting, it's actively disingenuous, especially for people claiming they care about truth. https://twitter.com/...
Sydney Bauer / @femme_thoughts: It's a hell of a strategy for the Times to just ignore the letter that came from its own contributors that was sourced and reported and conflate it with an additional letter from GLAAD and other groups. https://twitter.com/...
@samthielman: The GLAAD letter and the Freelance Solidarity Project letter are two entirely different letters. If I'm being accused of lazy misrepresentation I guess one thing I would try not to do in responding to the accusation is lazily misrepresent it https://twitter.com/...
Luke / @lukeoneil47: When Journalist-ists talk like this I feel like I'm dealing with a method actor who refuses to break character in between takes. Oh you're an 1800s farmer in real life? Right here in front of me? That's wild. https://twitter.com/...
Tom Ley / @toley88: imo the archness of this response betrays how ideologically motivated the coverage in question has been. https://twitter.com/...
Richard M. Nixon / @dick_nixon: They learned nothing from Jayson Blair and Judith Miller, both of whom were defended from the top with similar bloodlust. There are thoughtful people at the Times but they know to keep their heads down, even when they are being tarred with someone else's brush. https://twitter.com/...
Carlos Maza / @gaywonk: Cancel your subscription. Don't support a paper that's actively siding with bigotry. It's not worth it. https://twitter.com/...
Katelyn Burns / @transscribe: The contributor's letter was not affiliated with GLAAD. This is a purposeful falsehood. https://twitter.com/...
Felicia Sonmez / @feliciasonmez: Kahn is giving Fred Ryan a run for his money when it comes to treating the journalists at his paper with utter contempt. https://twitter.com/...
Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__: @maxwelltani They're taking sides with this. They're playing dumb by pretending they're not, which is in itself lying to their staff and readers, but they are absolutely taking sides here.
Dell Cameron / @dellcam: In the history of activism, the strongly-worded letter has rarely accomplished anything. It's just an obligatory step used to demonstrate publicly that power can't be reasoned with. If you aren't prepared to escalate beyond it, you aren't really in the fight.
@elivalley: Love an ethics policy that “prohibits our journalists from aligning themselves with advocacy groups” https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Karl Bode / @karlbode: it's completely wild that people in the TRUTH AND ACCURATE INFORMATION business are oblivious to both their role in amplifying a bigoted right wing moral panic, AND honestly believe that journalism is best served by silencing their own employees https://twitter.com/...
Dell Cameron / @dellcam: Power's predestined role is to downplay & disregard legitimate concern and exercise force to silence its critics & this is where movements that require greater coordination & participation often Peter out. Action is substantially harder to accomplish than words. https://twitter.com/...
Louis Peitzman / @louispeitzman: It's helpful to their cause to conflate both letters as one letter from an advocacy group rather than acknowledging that the letter they're actually talking about here was written and signed by current and former NYT contributors. https://twitter.com/...
Jo Yurcaba / NBC News: N.Y. Times contributors and LGBTQ advocates send open letters criticizing paper's trans coverage
Thomas Zimmer / @tzimmer_history@mastodon.social: As the reactionary assault on one of the country's most vulnerable, most marginalized groups is escalating, anti-"woke" crusaders are focused on the real threat - elite “free speech”: “Famous billionaires need our protection! …
Parker Molloy / @parkermolloy@masto.ai: Remember when NYT got rid of the Public Editor, a position that existed to respond to feedback about the paper's coverage and whatnot? And replaced it with, “Hey, readers can just use social media!” …
Patrick Reilly / New York Post: New York Times says it ‘will not tolerate’ staffers who publicly accused paper of ‘anti-trans bias’
Hayden Vernon / The Guardian:
Book publisher Puffin has hired sensitivity readers, who spot problematic language, to rewrite parts of Roald Dahl's children's books, cutting words like “fat” — Augustus Gloop now ‘enormous’ instead of ‘fat’, Mrs Twit no longer ‘ugly’ and Oompa Loompas are gender neutral
Discussion:
Telegraph, Los Angeles Times, @joannechocolat@mastodon …, @mattdpearce, The A.V. Club, @p_a_kirschner, @incunabula, New York Post, TMZ.com, Vanity Fair, @mrlukowski, @musicclerk, National Review, @edcumming, @bill_gerrard, @sarahw, @willardfoxton, @paulg, @maxthegirl, @lazlosghost, @niall_gooch, @helenkennedy, @jackholmes0, @adamserwer, @adrian_hilton, @sarahinchis, @amandadeibert, @stigabell, @anitathetweeter, @ethanhein, @donaldclarke63, @seerutkchawla, @katrosenfield, @af632, @keitholbermann, @robpalkwriter, @theabridgedzach, @millihill, The Independent, @stephenkb, @bdstanley, Fox News, @jonnelledge, @freddytrannager@newsie.social and Rolling Stone
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Telegraph: Roald Dahl goes PC in a world where no one is ‘fat’ and the Oompa-Loompas are gender neutral
Matt Pearce / Los Angeles Times: Roald Dahl's books have been edited to stop calling people fat so much
Joanne Harris / @joannechocolat@mastodon.online: Lots of anger and misinformation about sensitivity readers from Certain People today. I wrote this last year. It still makes sense to me. https://www.tumblr.com/...
@mattdpearce: Roald Dahl's books have been edited to stop calling people fat so much, plus other offensive things. This is being described as “woke.” I would reply that hardly anyone on here has read unfiltered Dahl, who has periodically needed, um, revision. https://www.latimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
William Hughes / The A.V. Club: Fans react to publisher efforts to edit in a kinder, gentler Roald Dahl
Paul A. Kirschner / @p_a_kirschner: WTF? Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive Has @PuffinBooks gone off the deep end? https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
@incunabula: Roald Dahl - 2001 authorized Puffin edition vs 2022 authorized Puffin edition. https://telegraph.co.uk/... https://twitter.com/...
Rich Calder / New York Post: Children's author Roald Dahl's beloved books scrubbed by ‘sensitivity experts’
Jordan Hoffman / Vanity Fair: Roald Dahl's New Editions of ‘Charlie and the Chocolate Factory’, ‘James and the Giant Peach’ And Others Have Been Edited For Sensitivity
@mrlukowski: strongly suspect this is a case of the Dahl estate watering him down in order to make themselves more money for longer rather than sensitivity readers leaping out of the trees and defacing his books https://twitter.com/...
Philip Clark / @musicclerk: Let's take the tritone out of Petrushka and ‘reimagine’ how Stravinsky's masterwork can speak to people's truths today #thepuppetlives https://twitter.com/...
Caroline Downey / National Review: Roald Dahl Goes Woke: Famous Children's Author's Books Heavily Altered by ‘Sensitivity Readers’
Ed Cumming / @edcumming: Roald Dahl is being edited for modern sensitivities. Where do you draw the line? Glad to work on this with @genevieve_holl and @bsmithjourno and a great team across the paper https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ...
William Gerrard / @bill_gerrard: “The BFG” no longer stands for the Big Fucking Giant, now it's the Big *Friendly* Giant...🤯 https://twitter.com/...
Sarah Weinman / @sarahw: Trying to imagine sensitivity readers having a go at the Uncle Oswald stories, good luck to you all https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Willard Foxton Todd / @willardfoxton: A ton of these Dahl changes are nothing to do with racism etc and everything to do with a classic bowdlerisation. You can very much argue Dahl with out all the grisly horror is deeply inauthentic; it's one the reasons they are so popular! https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Paul Graham / @paulg: “Matilda reads Jane Austen rather than Rudyard Kipling, and a witch posing as ‘a cashier in a supermarket’ now works as ‘a top scientist’.” “The Big Friendly Giant in The BFG cannot wear a black cloak.” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ...
Max Weiss / @maxthegirl: Not a fan of this AT ALL. I always say, when it comes to works of art, put in a disclaimer, put in a series of “book club” questions about how language has evolved, but for God's sake, DON'T change the writing. https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
William Friedkin Truths / @lazlosghost: Now that the Guardian has covered it, it's clear: these books exist in censored versions, and it's fucking terrible. https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
@niall_gooch: Genuinely laughing out loud at some of these awful purse-lipped tin-eared changes to Roald Dahl. Hilariously terrible. https://twitter.com/...
Helen Kennedy / @helenkennedy: Not on board. Not at all. This borders on sacrilege to me. https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Jack Holmes / @jackholmes0: this is a bizarro corollary to DeSantis's book banning. both are predicated on the idea that children and teens will be Damaged if they are exposed to the wrong words. https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Adam Serwer / @adamserwer: This is very stupid, aside from altering the meaning and nature of the work in question, part of learning is understanding context of the piece and when it was written https://twitter.com/...
Adrian Hilton / @adrian_hilton: Just wait until these ‘sensitivity readers’ get to AA Milne, Beatrix Potter, CS Lewis, @jk_rowling, @DavidWalliams, Enid Blyton, JRR Tolkien, JM Barrie, Lewis Carroll... ‘Let me have men about me that are fat..’ (Julius Caesar Iii). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ...
Sarah D / @sarahinchis: Yes many of of the edits to Roald Dahl's books seem silly and frankly unnecessary. But those demanding that the books be returned to their original form may not realise that *this* is their original form: https://twitter.com/...
Amanda Deibert / @amandadeibert: This is a terrible precedent. Dahl was not a good guy. However, changing context and re-writing history is a terrible idea you can read about in Orwell... unless we re-write it. Don't read offensive books, or, if you must, add in footnotes to explain things that are wrong or bad https://twitter.com/...
Stig Abell / @stigabell: This change to Roald Dahl is so preposterously, laughably pointless it makes you wonder whether the publisher is aware that fiction is an act of creatively making things up. https://twitter.com/...
Anita Singh / @anitathetweeter: The thing that annoys me about the Roald Dahl changes is how stupid they are. A ban on the word “fat” yet keeping in the rest of the description in which Augustus Gloop is clearly fat https://twitter.com/...
Dr Ethan Hein / @ethanhein: This is a tough one. My kids love Roald Dahl, warts and all, but I skip the racist jokes when I read them because little kids are impressionable and they repeat stuff. https://twitter.com/...
@donaldclarke63: On that Dahl thing. You have to be fudging kidding? [Expletive bowdlerised in 2022] I *honestly* did think this one was a joke before checking. Oh we can't have the kids looking up the dodgy bits in Heart of Darkness. Utterly pathetic. https://twitter.com/...
Seerut K. Chawla / @seerutkchawla: Did it ever occur to them that the offended can choose not to read the books, instead of taking the authoritarian step to alter the text of classic works of fiction? We have crossed over into full blown insanity. https://twitter.com/...
Kat Rosenfield / @katrosenfield: This should be illegal https://twitter.com/...
Keith Olbermann / @keitholbermann: Where do I send in the letters Roald Dahl wrote me to get them sanitized for my protection? 🤦🏼♂️ https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Rob Palk / @robpalkwriter: I think the problem with the change kids books when societal norms change argument is that Roald Dahl wasn't usually displaying unconscious bias etc. He was being a cunt on purpose and we should respect that
Zach Weissmueller / @theabridgedzach: Excuse my French, but, what the fuck is this shit? They are not only erasing and rewriting but even ADDING whole passages to an author's work in the name of “sensitivity.” https://twitter.com/...
@millihill: As a writer I don't feel great about the precedent set here - that my words are not my own. Clear boundaries needed - probably something that writers now need in their contracts. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ...?
Maryam Zakir-Hussain / The Independent: Editors rewrite Roald Dahl's books to remove controversial language
Stephen Bush / @stephenkb: Shameful. Roald Dahl should be rewritten by parents on the fly, like CS Lewis, not clumsily rewritten by the publisher like Enid Blyton: https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
Ben Stanley / @bdstanley: Christ. It's fine to discuss Dahl's work in light of his antisemitism and misogyny. This sort of stuff is - aside from being a tin-eared assault on literature - just an absolute gift to those who don't even want us to discuss that. https://twitter.com/...
Fox News: Roald Dahl children's books rewritten to delete references to ‘fat’ characters, add ‘inclusive’ gender terms
Jonn Elledge / @jonnelledge: I've been going back and forward on the Roald Dahl thing, and have eventually settled on “it matters less whether it's good or bad than whether it's actually important, and, luckily, it isn't”. Basically, it's this, about how the “thin end of the wedge” is a stupid heuristic. https://twitter.com/...
Gerry Smith / Bloomberg:
Some news outlets including The Wall Street Journal raise questions on whether OpenAI used their articles to train ChatGPT without paying for the content — Major news outlets have begun criticizing OpenAI and its ChatGPT software, saying the lab is using their articles to train its artificial intelligence tool without paying them.
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@fpmarconi, @tolles, @corybe, @gerryfsmith, @fpmarconi, @fpmarconi, @fpmarconi, @tolles and @tolles
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Francesco Marconi / @fpmarconi: ChatGPT is trained on a large amount of news data from top sources that fuel its AI. It's unclear whether OpenAI has agreements with all of these publishers. Scraping data without permission would break the publishers' terms of service. https://twitter.com/...
Chris Tolles / @tolles: @fpmarconi Their Robots.txt spell out the crawling policies. You don't need an agreement to crawl a site. Seems like a speculative accusation without understanding of the way the web works unless you have something more solid
Cory Bergman / @corybe: News content has helped train a million AIs over the years, which should not come as a surprise. But ChatGPT is growing into a monster business, and it seemingly has divulged its actual training sources... https://twitter.com/...
Gerry Smith / @gerryfsmith: WSJ and CNN are concerned that OpenAI is using their stories to train its artificial intelligence technology without paying them. “We take the misuse of our journalists' work seriously, and are reviewing this situation.” https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Francesco Marconi / @fpmarconi: @tolles The legal debate between AI generators and content rights-holders will depend on the interpretation of US Fair Use doctrine and “transformative use” — and whether systems like GPT store this data in their databases.
Francesco Marconi / @fpmarconi: Here's the prompt I used: “Which specific news sources was chatGPT trained on? Provide a list of the top news sources in your database.”
Francesco Marconi / @fpmarconi: @tolles https://apnews.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Chris Tolles / @tolles: @fpmarconi That may be, but “Scraping data without permission would break the publishers' terms of service” is an allegation not backed the TOS's in place currently, and one that libels the AI companies.
Chris Tolles / @tolles: @fpmarconi Ok. I will concede this is a greyer area from a pure tos standpoint (and withdraw my accusation of libel) but when there is a discrepancy between posted TOS and robots.txt, in practice, a crawler is engaging in a protected action. https://law.stackexchange.com/ ...
Sheila Dang / Reuters:
Source: Microsoft is demoing the Bing chatbot to ad agencies and is testing inserting paid search ads and industry-specific ad formats into the responses — Microsoft (MSFT.O) has started discussing with ad agencies how it plans to make money from its revamped Bing search engine powered …
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@davidlee: An Onion-esque headline to the “ChatGPT will disrupt Google!” crowd. Exclusive: Microsoft's Bing plans AI ads in early pitch to advertisers https://www.reuters.com/...
Muhammad Madni / Muhammad's Substack: Browse the Google Trends Website
Prada / Prada's Newsletter: If Sarah O'Connor meet (chatbot) Sydney: seduced - sexually inciting, coming on your job and sacred marriage
Matt Weinberger / Insider: The new Bing may not be the game-changer Microsoft wanted it to be, but it's still lit a fire under Google
Carl Quintanilla / @carlquintanilla: “.. For example, when a user asks the new AI-powered #Bing, ‘what are the best hotels in Mexico?’, hotel ads could pop up, according to the ad executive.” @reuters $MSFT https://www.reuters.com/...
Alex Kantrowitz / @kantrowitz: Nothing like a bot telling you it wants to break up your marriage and then inserting a paid link to a divorce lawyer https://www.reuters.com/...
Claire Ruth McNellan / Realities & Trivialities: Friday news — The exam I mentioned last week is delayed due to bureaucratic hurdles so I've …
Tristan Bove / Fortune: Microsoft is sticking to its A.I. goals despite user reports of ‘unhinged’ Bing AI in its first week
Chris Stokel-Walker / The Information: My Week of Being Gaslit and Lied to by the New Bing
Laurie Sullivan / MediaPost: Microsoft Shares Bing Chat Tech, What Advertisers Can Expect
Nicole Farley / Search Engine Land: Microsoft proposes AI ads in Bing
Aisha Malik / TechCrunch: Microsoft says Bing can be provoked to respond outside of its ‘designed tone’
Will Douglas Heaven / MIT Technology Review: The ChatGPT-fueled battle for search is bigger than Microsoft or Google
Natalie Hanson / Courthouse News Service:
A Nebraska court rules that a state agency violated state law by requiring independent news organization Flatwater Free Press to pay $44K for public records — The estimate for records requested by Flatwater Free Press jumped from $2,000 to over $44,000 between April and June 2022.
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@freedomofpress: A judge rightly blocked a ridiculous attempt by the @NebraskaDEE to charge @flatwaterfreep $44,000 for public records. But the Department still managed to harass the newspaper and stall its reporting, which may have been its goal all along. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ...
John E. Bredehoft / @jebredcal: This appears to go well beyond journalists, and seems to apply to other FOIA and similar requests. “He said once documents have been searched for and identified, any additional layer of review is up to the government — but not part of the total fee.” https://twitter.com/...
Paul Farhi / Washington Post:
NewsGuild members repeatedly hijacked topics on a C-SPAN morning call-in show to accuse C-SPAN board member and Block CEO Allan Block of union busting — The official topics were the debt limit, energy policy and the end of federal covid-relief funding, but that's not what many people wanted …
Jeffrey A. Trachtenberg / Wall Street Journal:
Barnes & Noble launches a $40/year membership offering 10% discounts, free shipping, and more, like the UK's Waterstones', which Elliott Management also owns — Book retailer also launches free membership program in effort to learn more about its customers
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David Lazarus / KTLA: Barnes & Noble wants to be the next Amazon Prime
BBC:
Indian officials say they uncovered tax irregularities after searching the BBC's offices for three days; the claim comes after the BBC aired a Modi documentary — Indian tax authorities say they have uncovered irregularities in the BBC's accounting books after searches at the broadcaster's offices in the country.
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@yacc143@mastodon.social, Financial Times, NPR, Associated Press, Al Jazeera, Bloomberg, Reuters and The Guardian
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Andreas K / @yacc143@mastodon.social: @Mediagazer Surely it will be very convincing evidence if it took them 3 days to plant it. — One asks, why didn't they go the big one, BBC journalists as terrorists that planned to kill beloved Modi?
Bibhudatta Pradhan / Bloomberg: India Tax Probe at BBC India Offices, in Wake of Modi Film, Ends
Aftab Ahmed / Reuters: Indian tax officials end ‘stressful’ 3-day BBC inspection
Tyler Aquilina / Variety:
Fall 2022 global survey: 72% of streaming customers reported becoming frustrated with finding something to watch and 25%+ took 10+ minutes to choose something — Can't decide what to watch on Netflix? Well, it's not going to get any easier. — The streamer has officially discontinued its …